BillsShredder83

former bill! has carved out a nice career for himself

Crazy. Has to be something wild off the field, and if there isnt an arrest, its almost even crazier imo. Bad arrest you have to cut a guy from PR standpoint. No arrest, drafted 17th, and cut after a season? SERIOUS drug prob, or he came in 500lbs lol

83 starts is good enough for now, hes a backup and sounds similar trajectory to that dude that retired last week! now grab one of those LB's out there to come compete

I'd just like to add a reminder that seems forgotten with the allen pick. He masterfully made moves to get us up to that pick! Traded that injury prone LT to Cinci for a move up, and Tyrod for 2nd rd ammo (or 1st of the 3rd rd?), did the double trade up in draft. It's not like Josh fell in our lap. Not saying we can't draft better, just that we forget what it took to go get Josh And a 2nd rder for watkins* Really amazing moves looking back

Odd phenomenon. Maybe we should consider using it as ammo to do something else with. Package it with a 1st and 4th to go up and snag Josh another legit WR this coming year or Tackle, left or right. We have a strong roster, I admit it's a painful cost, but a blue chipper on offense would be nice

Didn't even consider this. That field is statistically an ACL slaughterhouse. I forget the specifics but there was an article from The Athletic last year showing that field and Detroits had like 4x the ACL injuries as the average field. Just a baffling decision by teams owners. Like running vegetable oil in your car instead of motor oil to pinch pennies

Seeing Lynch voted that high for talent evaluating was kind of surprising given the Trey Lance debacle. Im sure the votes were done well before that trade, but still, a month ago that looks like an absolute train wreck. There isnt anyone even close in worse draft day deals, EVER. Then again these are agents, who have different motivations then most involved in the sport. Cool article though!

Interesting. Theres a lot of reactions saying they dont like your thought process. I hardly think we'll move him, but say for example someone calls up looking for a p4p trade? MLB/T are two positions im sure the league is aware we'd like to upgrade, maybe it tuirns into something, maybe it doesnt. I could see this as even a way of Beane doing some due diligence, give Benford some extra play time, while also being aware, it could generate a call about a player4player trade. We know what we have in Dane, give benford some time and if it draws interest worst case scenario you say no. Wouldnt shock me. I like the outside the box post

Oddly enough another poster was working on a similar post as mine at the same time last night... i dont know how to quote a post from another thread, but @LeGOATski had a theory, cant say I know its correct, but logical enough for me: "This is a high risk, high reward run play by design. It's a calculated release. They're hoping Cook makes a man miss and if he does everyone at the 2nd level is blocked. If he doesn't it's a short loss or no gain. I'm okay with that gamble when they have a shifty RB. It looks weird but it's not a mistake, as far as I know."

Going back and watching the game since i missed it yesterday. I've never done one of these posts, and admittedly am an amateur. These type of posts are usually my favorite as a reader, Wont be able to do whole game, but re-watching each play and 1 player at a time to see how our OL/DL looks, and include things that stuck out. My main focus was how we looked in the trenches, although i include a few other things that jumped out at me. I might come back and update this when I have more time... but so far Bills and Bears First Two Possessions..... BILLS D FIRST POSSESSION (3 and out i think, was a short drive if im wrong, i forgot lol) -Boogie looks like he majorly changed his body composition. not only doesnt look fat, but looks built like a brick shiz house. Saw him out there first play and couldnt see name/number, and was like who the hell is that??? What a great surprise, hopefully translates this year. -Daquan ate several double teams, one of those reps wasnt exactly a pressure, but got good penetration, and him getting his hands out caused an incompletion. Nice BILLS OFF FIRST DRIVE (Nice TD Drive) -Harty is an explosive route runner, so fast and change of direction is sudden. If he stays healthy hes going to have a nice year for us -Torrence is a monster in the run game. Above average pass blocker right now, and expect him to improve as the year goes on, but he did give up 2 pressures -Edwards looks like great depth piece, this OL wouldve been a lot better had he started here last year. Think McGovern will be a stud, so there is a drop off, however, he wont be a liability. Looked good on the drive, made smart decisions. Came in and pancaked Dawkins man when he realized he was freed up. Also, saw a play he was helping out Dion, Dion had the guy locked up well, so he slid over to help Morse out on a rep -Diggs/Davis had a real nice rub play, they both ended up open even though Diggs got the ball. -Dawkins looked lost on a few plays. Specifically a Cook run on first down that got blown up. Morse-Torrence-Brown did their jobs well, but 2 defenders came in off left side, basically untouched while Dion was looking around for someone to block. Not Edwards best rep either, but Dion looked worse -Camera work was awful on broadcast. Few plays they were zoomed out way tooooo far. Then a weird one where pre-snap, they were zoomed way the hell in, all you could see was like the tops of the helmets, they transitioned to a regular view, but the play hadyard alraedy developed. I remember last season the NFL suddenly having bad camera work quite a bit. Also, the broadcast just sucked a lot last year. I remember frequently wanting to see a replay of a big play, and theyre zoomed in on sideline not showing the play, then the next play starts, like - oh i guess nobody wanted to see that play again? Was weird as i dont ever remember this being more than a one-off thing the rest of my life. Hopefully they get it figured out -Morse is so solid, he did a great job of looking for work on plays where he didnt end up having a man -Gabes drop sucked, ughhhh. Probably a few ppl on here thought he had two, but the second one was nice defense break up. He somewhat made up for it with 2 catches though (1? i forget, was focused on line play mostly) -Few plays before the Harris TD, Kink drew a holding penalty. That was 100% a TD for him had it not happened -Good to finally see Harris out there. OL did a great job blowing their man up and opening that hole for TD DEFENSE 2ND SERIES (another quick series) -Oliver - It was noticeable on the first series to, but he looks really good. Looks like the disruptor we drafted (and extended). We've seen flashes of this before but he looks as good as he did early last year when he was a monster. Just about beating his guy off the snap, first step is both quick and explosive, his man is already going backwards from there. Hungry to make plays, hes in the backfield almost every play. Will note it here, on the 3rd drive he creates serious pressure on a play, QB steps to other side of pocket in a way where Ed's almost out of the play (having already done his job), and he turns on the burners and chases him like I've never seen lol -Floyd gets in backfield on a run, tackles already been made, and an OL innocently enough sort of has a hand on his shoulder from behind, and he whips around, and gets in his face. Absolutely love that fire, is contagious on the field -Rousseau on this drive (a short one) is in a 2pt stance twice. Cant say i remember him doing much of this last year? BILLS 2ND POSSESSION OFFENSE (Ends on Kyle Allen INT) - Saw Kincaid execute a real nice chip block! If he gets that up to speed fast, we may never leave 12 personnel -Speaking of 12 personnel. I was zoned in on Kincaid the first time I watched this play. On 2nd review of same play, KNOX ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATES HIS MAN ON A QUICK CHIP BLOCK! JUST WOWWWWWWW. Our two stud TE's helped a pretty nice 19yard completion to Sherfield develop on this play -Sherfield decides to return the favor to the rest of offense. He's motioned from outside in tight next to TE on the line. Man he's strong. His block ends up turning what would've been a negative yard run from Cook, into a 5-6yarder. While he might not exactly turn into a fan favorite, he's already a coaching staff favorite with what he brings to run game, they love that stuff. He also gets downfield to lockup a man in the secondary a few plays later. What a freaking upgrade from Touchdown False-Profit Kumerow. He's a stud blocker, and he actually can make plays to catch. He's going to see a lot of playing time this year! -Buffalo runs a very well executed screen to Cook. Right side of the line holds up strong, and Dion does a great job selling it! He came out of his stance VERY SLOW, looked like he didnt know the snap count, and his man took the bait. Now the play came back on a ticky tack block in the back on Edwards, great play, well executed. My God, if this team figured out a screen game, it will be the first time Ive seen it in my life! -Drive ends on a Kyle Allen interception... Brown really struggles with his man, getting drove straight back into the QB. Ugly rep for him. The good news is Josh would've never let that man pressure him like Kyle did, and there's no way he's throwing the ball where Kyle did. It was across the field with a man draped all over him (might have been Gabe, but not his fault at all)

Going back and watching the game since i missed it yesterday. Wont be able to do whole game, but re-watching each play and 1 player at a time to see how our OL/DL looks, and include things that stuck out. I might come back and update this... but so far..... BILLS D FIRST POSSESSION (3 and out i think, was a short drive if im wrong, i forgot lol_ -Boogie looks like he majorly changed his body composition. not only doesnt look fat, but looks built like a brick shiz house. Saw him out there first play and couldnt see name/number, and was like who the hell is that??? What a great surprise, hopefully translates this year. -Daquan ate several double teams, one of those reps wasnt exactly a pressure, but got good penetration, and him getting his hands out caused an incompletion. Nice BILLS OFF FIRST DRIVE (Nice TD Drive) -Harty is an explosive route runner, so fast and change of direction is sudden. If he stays healthy hes going to have a nice year for us -Torrence is a monster in the run game. Above average pass blocker right now, and expect him to improve as the year goes on, but he did give up 2 pressures -Edwards looks like great depth piece, this OL wouldve been a lot better had he started here last year. Think McGovern will be a stud, so there is a drop off, however, he wont be a liability. Looked good on the drive, made smart decisions. Came in and pancaked Dawkins man when he realized he was freed up. Also, saw a play he was helping out Dion, Dion had the guy locked up well, so he slid over to help Morse out on a rep -Diggs/Davis had a real nice rub play, they both ended up open even though Diggs got the ball. -Dawkins looked lost on a few plays. Specifically a Cook run on first down that got blown up. Morse-Torrence-Brown did their jobs well, but 2 defenders came in off left side, basically untouched while Dion was looking around for someone to block. Not Edwards best rep either, but Dion looked worse -Camera work was awful on broadcast. Few plays they were zoomed out way tooooo far. Then a weird one where pre-snap, they were zoomed way the hell in, all you could see was like the tops of the helmets, they transitioned to a regular view, but the play hadyard alraedy developed. I remember last season the NFL suddenly having bad camera work quite a bit. Also, the broadcast just sucked a lot last year. I remember frequently wanting to see a replay of a big play, and theyre zoomed in on sideline not showing the play, then the next play starts, like - oh i guess nobody wanted to see that play again? Was weird as i dont ever remember this being more than a one-off thing the rest of my life. Hopefully they get it figured out -Morse is so solid, he did a great job of looking for work on plays where he didnt end up having a man -Gabes drop sucked, ughhhh. Probably a few ppl on here thought he had two, but the second one was nice defense break up. He somewhat made up for it with 2 catches though (1? i forget, was focused on line play mostly) -Few plays before the Harris TD, Kink drew a holding penalty. That was 100% a TD for him had it not happened -Good to finally see Harris out there. OL did a great job blowing their man up and opening that hole for TD DEFENSE 2ND SERIES (another quick series) -Oliver - It was noticeable on the first series to, but he looks really good. Looks like the disruptor we drafted (and extended). We've seen flashes of this before but he looks as good as he did early last year when he was a monster. Just about beating his guy off the snap, first step is both quick and explosive, his man is already going backwards from there. Hungry to make plays, hes in the backfield almost every play. Will note it here, on the 3rd drive he creates serious pressure on a play, QB steps to other side of pocket in a way where Ed's almost out of the play (having already done his job), and he turns on the burners and chases him like I've never seen lol -Floyd gets in backfield on a run, tackles already been made, and an OL innocently enough sort of has a hand on his shoulder from behind, and he whips around, and gets in his face. Absolutely love that fire, is contagious on the field -Rousseau on this drive (a short one) is in a 2pt stance twice. Cant say i remember him doing much of this last year? BILLS 2ND POSSESSION OFFENSE - Saw Kincaid execute a real nice chip block! If he gets that up to speed fast, we may never leave 12 personnel -Speaking of 12 personnel. I was zoned in on Kincaid the first time I watched this play. On 2nd review of same play, KNOX ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATES HIS MAN ON A QUICK CHIP BLOCK! JUST WOWWWWWWW. Our two stud TE's helped a pretty nice 19yard completion to Sherfield develop on this play -Sherfield decides to return the favor to the rest of offense. He's motioned from outside in tight next to TE on the line. Man he's strong. His block ends up turning what would've been a negative yard run from Cook, into a 5-6yarder. While he might not exactly turn into a fan favorite, he's already a coaching staff favorite with what he brings to run game, they love that stuff. He also gets downfield to lockup a man in the secondary a few plays later. What a freaking upgrade from Touchdown False-Profit Kumerow. He's a stud blocker, and he actually can make plays to catch. He's going to see a lot of playing time this year! -Buffalo runs a very well executed screen to Cook. Right side of the line holds up strong, and Dion does a great job selling it! He came out of his stance VERY SLOW, looked like he didnt know the snap count, and his man took the bait. Now the play came back on a ticky tack block in the back on Edwards, great play, well executed. My God, if this team figured out a screen game, it will be the first time Ive seen it in my life! -Drive ends on a Kyle Allen interception... Brown really struggles with his man, getting drove straight back into the QB. Ugly rep for him. The good news is Josh would've never let that man pressure him like Kyle did, and there's no way he's throwing the ball where Kyle did. It was across the field with a man draped all over him (might have been Gabe, but not his fault at all)

thats right. what an insane trade. bad mgmt by SEA. he was proli a player they obsessed about in a draft, and wayyyyyy overpaid to get the guy

Got my first managing gig when i was 23, collection agency. high turnover, was asked to fire a few kids after a day or two because theyre too nice/shy whatever. Kinda like NFL, its performance based. Kid might come in 30mins early, make coffee, stay focused (good employee traits), friendly... but if you dont produce, theyre on waivers. Any who I had nobody teach me at all how to do it AT ALL! Talking to a buddy outside work, he says "GO WATCH MONEYBALL" LOL To this day, Jonah Hill and Brad Pitt are the ppl who taught me how to be a "turk."

Thank God they blew that chance at Lawrence! Although had they landed him, that nice draft last year would've looked different. Obv they're still better off but they don't have Sauce nor Wilson (probably? I kinda forget where some of those picks came from)

1 year for a first rounder is too long now? Lol this place rules 🤣

How do we know McD won't run more man? They've indicated they plan to be more aggressive, assuming that includes blitzing. Outside of that, along our playoff run we'll need a man guy for Chase/Tyreek/Kelce. You'd rather have a 4th rder than a guy that can help cover the biggest thorns in our side? So unbelievably short sighted

AJE was a 2nd rder coming out of a weird draft where players didn't get regular training camps. Elam has elite measurables, played in the SEC, and was drafted knowing he was a bit of a project to fit our scheme. Depth alone he's valuable to this team this year (a SB expectation season) and that's ignoring the chance to develop a guy completely switching schemes. He's struggling to adapt, at our deepest position on the team. This would be inconceivably dumb!!! Don't hold your breath on a trade, Beane ain't that dumb either

You don't unload a 1st rd pick after 1 season unless they're smoking crack on Chippewa. This is something the Browns and Texans do, not a champ team that has the depth to develop the guy. Was everyone here drinking for a preseason game??????

I can't get here. Only way I trade him is a p4p swap and a zone cb, but that sounds unlikely. We knew what he was, nothings changed in 1 year. DEVELOP DEVELOP DEVELOP!!!! For now, find ways to get him on the field in situational hybrid zone/press. I'd be furious at a trade because we aren't getting chit, and we have no clue what we have. Major indictment on this staff if you throw up your hands and admit you can't develop the guy, or use him situational. Fireable offense to me just based on poor communication and draf capital usage. McD was aware of his strengths enough to have him on their first rd board. Beane isn't pulling the trigger without acknowledgement the staff can coach him up. Has the physical tools and is a cerebral player, MAKE IT WORK, OR HELL TRYYYYYY. Unbelievable

Looks like Morse played 1Q maybe? Def glad to hear Edwards playing nicely. Pretty awesome to have improved starter, andddddd have the LG backup be better than last years starter as bonus

too much sun today, and reading this melted my brain lol i too did not get to watch, but from the extended 10min highlights on youtube (very limited obv), it looked like the OL played well? Anybody wanna give a run down of what they saw out of Edwards, Torrence, and Brown? Loooks like they got a few more drives then Josh

Heard she joined a biker gang though. knocks still look aight

You're telling me, i bet $5k on the Vikings without telling mine! What an upset by the Bills!

What do you want him to say? *Dealer on the lot* "this cars been a lemon, transmission is going, they've been going up in flames for fender benders. We'll need that payment in cash"

I wish this didnt get moved to Off the Wall! Whos everybody have for college this weekend?