BillsShredder83

Probably not, but im not trading him. hes healthy, pissed off, and fully dependent on incentives to get paid. if we were to make a run, its because we get better with a trade, and Von plays with his hair on fire.... 100% believe he does stilll

Hopefully dude has a frame that can slab some more beef on him with NFL weight & diet coach

There you have it. The literal dumbest question I've ever seen on the board. I dont think we could trade Elam for the rights to Henry Ruggs

Devils advocate; buy low on a player with upside, a fresh start, and 2 cost controlled years. Why build all this culture if it can't support 1 player with some rough edges, especially when you get the dude with a "fresh team bump"? Sure Diggs went sour, but we traded a #1 for three elite years, and resold for a #2. Did we lose because we had a year with a dbag??? I think you should be able to keep a revolving door of 1 or 2 guys like this on the team at a time (not on same side of the ball though)

There are issues for several reportedly interested teams, with his cap hit trading for him NOW. Pro rate per game on like $13m i read, so cap hit gets cheaper roughly $1m/game. While there are teams interested that have the cap space, if im LVR, I'm not opening bidding until I know all teams are capable of pulling trigger. Why set up an auction when you know 3-4 interested teams can't make it to the auction? Only way around that is you negotiate with the team, hey, there are a handful of teams that can't really bid just yet, blow me away with an offer now while you have a chance to be sole bidder. Otherwise call me back week before deadline, and be aware we're discussing trade with all teams prior to any decision.

I'd rather jam a broken flower stem down my urethra, or undergo a brain transplant from Antonio Brown.

The "you sure" thing REALLY pissed me off at the time. Straw broke camels back after passing up several silver platter opportunities to support josh in interviews, the way josh had constantly been doing. I can only imagine beane and the locker rooms reaction seeing/hearing that.

3 *AND* 1???? ALLAHU ACKBAR!!!!!!!

I think winning and a fresh start will do enough to keep him behaved here during the short remainder of his career. Everyone shouting DIGGS! DIGGS! forgets he was a literal angel here 2 years minimum; happy to have a top qb and win some games. Dudes 32. It's not like we're marrying the dude fresh outta HS. Can proli play at high level 2 more years, figure it out then. Willing to pay proper compensation via picks, if they're fully committed to starting rebuild and eating cap dollars they don't need anyways. 🤷‍♂️ If you have a coach staff/locker room culture that can't hold up a top talent with a poor attitude for 2 years, you don't have a culture anyways. These malcontents reset their tantrum clock each time they change teams. See Diggs in 2020. See Diggs in 2024. See T.O. in Dallas post SF. I'm sure there's a million I'm not bothering to remember

Poyer wasn't? I didn't see anything to reflect that being true?

Can't forget the boards draft bargain pick Javon Soloman punching out the rock, and showing Mac what a real Alabama football player looks like

Won $250 on 3 leg: Ray Davis TD, Josh over 235yds, Bills -6.6 Took $100 on Bills SB @ 8:1 And sprinkled $50 Dodgers WS Win/Bills SB @ 40:1 Worst case I'm totally cool with selling that 2nd one off in a month if Dodgers can do what seems obvious, at a nice Lil profit. Beyond stoked at how many ways were dangerous

What could you get, 5th? I think his value is so trashed, that there's no value in dealing him. Worst case you got a guy to ride pine and have 5 years in the offense instead of playing backup carousel. In the mean time, work on the kid, but it's def looking Zack Wilson ish. I haven't paid attention much, are those 4th/5th years unmanageable cap wise for a guy that went #1? Or is he cheap backup money and by year 4 or 5 gets to top end backup $$ (tyrod or minschew type $$)

Dont forget with that trade carolina paid out a #1 overall lol They coulda had Stroud and a top Tackle. An ace WR. Kept DJ Moore and a 2nd rounder lol Absolutely debilitating to this team. My friends and family are panthers fans. Their excitement today reminds me of Trent edwards or Fitzpatrick energy they gave us first month of a season. I tried warning them guard your feelings lol They're convinced Andy Dalton is gunna be last years Joe Flacco Browns season 🤣🤣🤣 It felt like being 35 at the bar laughing at how immature the 20year Olds are, while forgetting that was me not all that long ago lol I'm gunna let them have fun with it, but you'll find no comforting words from me when Andy freaking Dalton breaks their hearts lol

I know nobody listened, but those who did caught something about an onsides punt?! I have no clue if that's real but it seemed it

WHOA, wait. At the end "try an onside punt" wtf is that? Wouldn't a team just fair catch it???

McDaniel as a young coach has more at stake too. Young,first head coach job. Get fired for essentially insubordination, and I don't know he has the track record to get another HC job anytime soon. His chance to fix that is in progress and jury is still out, if he can keep the ship upright a few years successfully, he'll have job security as a hireable coach... even if it's not Miami. If doctors are telling him Tua needs a month and then clear him, he'd be sabotaging his own career, and Tua's at same time. Who is he to tell Tua and a doctor they're wrong, all to flush his career. Tough decision for sure. I wouldn't lose respect if he let Tua play. And if he believes in his heart he's putting Tua in serious jeopardy and makes a stand. I'd respect the hell outta that... but he's a captain going down with the ship if it's that

NFL couldn't attempt to force him out unless they had an absolute bulletproof, indisputable, medical report. There would be pitchforks and fires from Nflpa. Including from me. Up thread someone mentioned "we should petition to have NFL force him to retire". Obv that's not gunna work, but the mere idea of that is so far beyond shameful. "How do we know he's competent enought to make a decision". 🤣🤣🤣 We can send our kids off in the name of oil and poppy plants, where they'll certainly return life alteringly mentally damaged and possibly physically.... for $35k/year. Or have our kids drafted, and that's the trajectory. But yes, we as a civilization need to run interference on anothers life, because he's not smart enough to know what he's getting himself into, even though he's college educated, and playing the most cerebral position in sports. Maybe he's fully aware and *if medically cleared* nobody but him gets to make a decision if he should play or not. If it's his dream he gets to decide for himself if the risk is too much. Shameful anyone could even entertain that... and that's from me, who hopes he hangs it up

That's for the doctors to assess. Spot on and that's what I meant. Find a way to make it less dorky and use will go up

Tell them you can head hunt again if you're wearing it and we'd see 100% on the defensive side 😆

Insane question. I hope he doesn't play! But someone stating we should petition to force retirement and now "is he competent". He's a grown arse man. Last thing anybody in this country needs is more people telling others how to live their life. Do better

NFL needs to dump money into making that thing much more hidden. Players sHoUld know better,but that's swimming up stream. Get the dang thing to where you squint and can't tell who is/isn't wearing it, and it'll be at 95% voluntary wearing. Kids be stubborn lol

The actual reality here, you're right. Only 32 HCs, piss an owner off, he might tag you at end of season (see Wade Phillips). They'll find someone who would've tried to put Hamlin back in 2022. That's 100% the reality. I have no doubt being young, 1st time HC, he was feeling that pressure. Maybe not get another shot. Factor in the pressure of Tua saying clear me. Doctors clearing him. Voiced or unvoiced pressure from all players when yall look like a good team. Potentially losing your job for insubordination when: Tua himself, doctors, league, and ownership are saying I'm good to go. A part of him proli felt like it'd be OK after all that. Like, technically I proli shouldn't do this, but feels like not wearing a seat belt JUST ONCE. "It'll be fine". Part of me thinks an older established coach, with certainty in another HC job, would be the only one with the resolve to say NO.

The way I've heard it explained, tracks with evidence we've seen on being prone to concussions. Basically their are spiderweb type fibers that hold your brain together - like a compression sock, and (I believe don't quote me on this specific point-->) attach from brain to skull. Each impact shakes your brain a little, whether majorly or minor. Think of it like a fraying rope. They alllll add up, and severe one's do the most damage. Allowing your brain to shift more easily than the last, more wiggle to allow your brain to smack sides, front and back of skull. Most players who have multiple concussions show this play out. Always being prone to get them again more easily. It explains why fighters "lose their chin" in boxing after brutal KOs. Countless boxers. Lafontaine. Lindros. Harvin. Etc etc. It can't repair broken fibers. Frayed one's maybe, with a lot of time. Like a scab will. Put if you constantly pick at a scab it'll never heal or heal poorly. He's 26 i wish he'd retire. Likeable, handsome, Uber successful. Go fill up a house with kids somewhere tropical. Bare minimum he should take a full year off. You just can't escape the micro tears/impacts. But he won't unfortunately.

No way am i ready to hand that title over. People forgot how nasty he was 2020, but solid 3 years for us. ~100 catches ~1k yards. He WAS our run game. The human first down. I think Shakir has potential to be better, but it's gunna take a ton to get there. Consistent high output, every game. I'd love to see it happen. Prime Cole was so fun, dude would have people pulling their hair out after every 3rd & 7. Kept defense fresh too