The Frankish Reich
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10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
And I have posted more than three that show masks as little more than a placebo (excepting the N95s) ... over in the COVID thread (I linked because we now have four COVID thread down here). Feel free to go over and read. 🙂
I highly recommend the work that this group of scientists -- mostly mechanical engineers -- is doing.
I know I post my fair share of snark here, but I am dead serious about this. I don't want people to be misinformed about the key things they can control in their lives without shutting down everything and cowering in fear at home to minimize the risk to themselves, their families, and others. And I want those who disagree with me here to be as safe as possible too, even if they are somewhat more willing to engage in all aspects of pre-COVID life than I am at the moment. We all make our choices, but those choices should be informed by the best information we have.
On masks (from the FAQ ... also critical are the parts about indoor air flow and air exchange rates):
Unfortunately there are many many misconceptions about masks, including:
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“Masks don’t work because the virus is much smaller than the pores of the mask.” First, the virus is not thought to be “naked” in the air, this is a misconception. Masks are just filters that we wear, so see this discussion below of filtering efficiency vs. size and why much of what you may hear online is wrong. Second, aerosol filtration does not work in the same way of a sieve that we may be more familiar with. Filters can capture aerosols that are much smaller than the pore size, see the Minute Physics video for a good explanation.
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“Masks do not work.” To say that masks do not work to remove a fraction of the aerosols (being either inhaled or exhaled) contradicts basic physics. It is like saying that if you put on a coat, you will not feel warmer. If you put on a coat, it will partially impede the flow of heat away from your body. In the same way a mask impedes the flow of particles across it, by capturing many of them. There is no other possibility. Of course the real efficiency depends on how good the mask material is as a filter, and of how well the mask fits without gaps.
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“Masks only protect against ballistic droplets, not aerosols.” Again, this is another misconception. Masks always provide some partial protection against exhaled and inhaled aerosols, with the protection depending on the quality of the mask material, how well they fit (no gaps between mask and face), and the size of the aerosols that matter.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
Charming? Funny? Friendly?
OH MY GOD, THE Q PEOPLE ARE RIGHT! THEY'VE REPLACED HIM WITH AN IMITATION TRUMP WHILE THE REAL ONE IS IN HIS SECRET BUNKER!!
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15 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
Not as tough as losing a 4-0 lead in a clinching game and then losing both that game AND the elimination game.
Yeah. That must've been rough. And after they were almost quarantined out of MLB this summer.
But I do love those Padres. They're the team I'm pulling for in these playoffs.
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Lou Brock and Bob Gibson back-to-back. Tough week for Cards fans.
I was too young to catch Gibby's 1968 dominance -- that 1.12 ERA is burned into my neurons as an unbreakable record.
I did see him in his later years when the stuff wasn't there, but the intensity -- that scowl, that "I will drill you in the back if you try to lean over my plate" -- never left.
RIP, Gibby.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
I am certainly pissed (Trump "cultist" that I am
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WTF do you expect the President of the United States to do? Hide in the basement? He has a country to run.
Why he was taken off HCQ + zinc pack as a preventative is a valid question.
And if you tell me "masks" I will laugh in your face... with and without a mask. If masks worked the entire country would be open. Instead, places with tough mask laws are still closed (California, NYC, etc.)
It is a valid question. Particularly this one: why isn't he on it NOW? Instead, he's being given treatments that are new, but found promising by the mainstream scientific community.
That should tell you everything you need to know about HCQ except why certain Trump supporters keep pumping up its (unsupported) virtues.
My wife has a friend who studied what they call Chinese Medicine ... acupuncture, herbal remedies, etc, etc. And she swore by these things for years, using them as supplements during times of health.
Then she unfortunately had a serious medical issue and immediately abandoned traditional Chinese medicine in favor of good old fashioned Western Medicine. And thank God it worked. That told me everything I needed to know about the limits of the unscientific approach.
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17 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...anybody know if DR was banned again?.....seems to have disappeared...AGAIN..............
It may be because Stiffy Mickey told him it's 13 o'clock. His militia needs to be ready ... it's on!
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/maga-world-blame-adulation-trump-covid-425624
In the conspiracy swamps of QAnon social media, there was, oddly, a sense of elation: Trump’s infection was, in their opinion, another sign that Trump’s plan to purge the government of pedophiles was about to reach a culmination
QAnon is a set of online-based beliefs that, at its core, claims a top tier of Satan-worshiping elites are running a secret pedophile ring out of Washington, D.C., and that Trump is the vanguard of an upcoming “Storm” that will lead to mass arrests and executions of these officials.
And on Friday, according to various QAnon theorists, Trump had left a secret message to his followers in his announcement on Twitter that he had tested positive for Covid-19. Some suggested that his use of the word “together” was, in fact, code for “to get her,” a reference to attacks on his 2016 rival, Hillary Clinton. Others thought Trump’s quarantining was part of a broader plan to isolate the president from potential violence associated with the upcoming election.
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Joe Biden took down all negative ads when Trump was diagnosed with COVID,
The Trump campaign continues to push out negative Biden ads.
Ron Brownstein the morning on CNN:
Does anyone believe that if the tables were turned, if it was Biden hospitalized with COVID, the Trump campaign WOULDN'T be saying that this proves how Biden is too old and frail to be President?
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Michael Moore thinks Trump may be faking COVID to delay the election.
I nailed the Lefty conspiracy theory too!
This is getting way too easy ....
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The best single summary I've seen regarding the possible courses of the disease in elderly men.
ALEX HOGAN/STAT
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On 10/1/2020 at 7:51 PM, B-Man said:
Why ?
Seriously why ?
Note that it says THE RESULTS, not that totals are not compiled yet, if you have the results don't report them.
The ONLY reason would be that the losing party wants time to discover more votes.
It is asking the media to participate in fraud.
Sorry folks ... there's a couple other interesting races in Colorado, but it ain't gonna be close for the presidency. If anything this is bending over backwards to appease the Repubs
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1 minute ago, Hedge said:
Tacking this one on to the list:
My kid is about as uninterested in politics as any kid could be.
But she sure as hell knows all about Kellyanne Conway's daughter:
That girl has the biggest case of teen angst in the history of the world.
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1 minute ago, Nelius said:
Pretty insane story arc even by 2020 standards that the Hope Hicks return could wipe out Trump and a good chunk of his administration. Simulation overlords are just pressing buttons at this point.
I hope he didn't just start kissing her.
Safer to just grab her by the, umm, you know what.
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5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
It is what it is.
The ACB Rose Garden Superspreader Event, a/k/a the Revenge of RGB ... they did it before she was even in the grave.
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38 minutes ago, BillStime said:
You think the virus is going nuclear?Interesting cluster of cases coming out of the ACB nomination Rose Garden ceremony last Saturday.
Is it the Revenge of RGB?
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1 hour ago, BillStime said:
Pigs
The same day Biden took down negative Trumps ads.
Trump Digital Media Guru Brad Parscale must have missed that one.
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17 minutes ago, TH3 said:
No ....the shove the UV light up your butt machine is there!
I’ve been diligent about maintaining decorum in this thread but I’ll take a time out to say: nicely played.
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It appears that I’ve nailed the Q conspiracy theory! I’m getting too good at this. Call me The Estranged Wino.
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You know they're coming, fast and furious. So here's my leading candidates:
FROM THE LEFT: Trump knew he was failing. The debate was the final proof. His only hope: delay the election. Maybe a vaccine will come out. Maybe Biden will have his own health issues or mega-gaffes. This is all a big hoax designed to give him an excuse to postpone the election, an idea he'd floated before.
FROM THE RIGHT: Biden's forces need to freeze the world as it is right now. They got lucky in the first debate. They don't dare risk another one. Does anyone check those COVID swabs given to White House staffers. The one Hope Hicks got may have been inoculated with COVID, knowing that she'd soon be in close quarters with the President. This accomplishes what they wanted.
FROM THE NUTCASE MEGA Qs: Trump is playing 5D chess. BIg shite about to go down. Mass arrests, the bugaboo (or whatever they call it). Trump needed an excuse to escape to a safe location. He'll be out of the way watching as it all goes down, only to reemerge on October 25 to put this election away.
Make up your own!
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1 minute ago, stevestojan said:
Curious why he tweeted it by the wrong name. He said he had COVID-19. He mixed it up. He has the CHina virus.
I hadn't even thought about that.
The Trump tweet refers to it as COVID-19. What happened?
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From a purely academic standpoint, I find this fascinating -- what happens if a president on the ballot is unable to serve?
The answer: despite the constitution and various succession statutes is: we're not sure.
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Just now, meazza said:
President Pence will run everything smoothly.
I can't wait for our resident conspiracy theorists to start chiming in on what's REALLY going on here.
Must be awaiting their marching orders ...
2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:Is it time to send in the Federal Reserve troops?
Alan Greenspan was seen buying a polo shirt and AR-15. Just sayin'
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Update on the markets:
Kind of a big "meh."
Dow is down about 1% (not a major swing)
FTSE (London) actually closed UP .39%
I'm not seeing any panic.
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1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:
Biden just changed direction for some reason and now has people going door to door for his campaign. His prior excuse for not doing so (stated just a couple days ago) was they didn't want to spread the virus. Does he now want to spread the virus? I'm not so sure what position Biden took deserves an apology. Maybe you can enlighten us.
There is a big, big difference between volunteers knocking on doors, speaking to someone from outside, or leaving a campaign flyer and bringing a big travel party and sometimes thousands of people to a rally ...
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18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:
In the category of "posts I wish I'd copied and saved" -- someone here suggested NY may be in play for Trump now.
Trump, Melania Test Positive for COVID 19
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by The Frankish Reich
If folks would read the FAQ I linked to, I think they'd have a better understanding of what masks can and can't do.
They are not a panacea. But as the CDC Director said just a week or two ago, they are absolutely the single best thing we have to slow transmission rates until a vaccine is widely available.
So in light of about 8 months of intense experience with COVID now, these are the things I do:
- I wear a mask, always, when INDOORS with people from outside my household
- I almost never wear a mask OUTDOORS unless I'm in a crowded area or with people standing/sitting nearby, like when standing in line waiting to get into a store. I eat outdoors at restaurants all the time and I don't worry about whether every human being is 6 feet away from me. I try to never eat indoors at a restaurant unless it has large windows/garage doors that are open, even if they are capacity limited. I just don't know enough about the restaurant's HVAC system. Shops with high ceilings and people spread out don't worry me as typically they have high air exchange rates.
- I go on long cycling trips (my way of avoiding the gym) and never wear a mask on those. Any close contact I have with others is fleeting.
- I have to meet with people face-to-face in my job. I wear a mask, require that they do, and I use an air purifier unit to increase air exchange rates over what my building's HVAC system provides
- Up till now I have avoiding flying on planes. There is little or no evidence of superspreader (or even ordinary spreader) events on planes. I am considering flying again, but I will avoid sitting next to a person from outside my household, and I will not take ubers or taxis unless absolutely necessary and for very short trips. Rental cars don't bother me as long as the shuttle ride is short and not overcrowded. I stay in airbnb's instead of hotels whenever possible.
-I just don't worry about surface transmission anymore. I use hand sanitizer frequently, but other than that there's little evidence of surface transmission being a problem.
And the recent apparent superspreader event at the White House -- the ACB nomination ceremony -- kind of confirms the core advice in the FAQ about what to avoid, how to mitigate risk, and what we needn't be too concerned about.
Folks, let's please take sound advice and try to get through this. We can't reopen the economy the way we'd like to if people ignore the lessons of the last 8 months.