The Frankish Reich
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Do you think he'll go for 1000? As mentioned his QB situation isn't great. I think if he plays more than 14 games he might get to 1000 yards. You just never know with him. If he goes 2 years without missing a game, then I'm going to question his heart when he played in buffalo.
With the disclaimer that I didn't disapprove of all of these players leaving ...
... I do think we'll see a big year in his contract season from Sammy. I think Goff will quickly learn to just let Sammy make plays. I also think Robert Woods and Chris Hogan will have very productive years. In fact, I think Watkins/Woods/Hogan will all have more yards receiving this year than the most productive Bills WR.
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Try doing the *patriots....its way worse.
Brady
Bledsoe
Grogan
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Eason
Well ... true, but isn't it kind of like the opposite of the "other than that, Mrs. Lincoln enjoyed the play?" I mean, the GOAT (no, I don't enjoy saying that) and a Pro Bowler/Super Bowl starting QB spanning the last quarter century and all that ...
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all college threads keep getting moved to college forum
Damn. I didn't want to have to search for that one. I'm keeping tabs and taking names!
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Who gives a rats patootie!
What would we do without the guy who reads all the posts and joins TSW so he can post comments like this?
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Doug FlutieDrew BledsoeKyle OrtonRyan FitzpatrickTyrodTaylorTrent EdwardsKelly HolcombTodd CollinsEJ ManualRob JohnsonJP LosmanAlex Van PeltThad LewisJeff TuelBrian Brohm
Cassel never started for the Bills. In fact he never even took a regular season snap
Didn't Cassel actually come out as the starter for one play, then Tyrod replaced him? He was the designated hard count guy or something before we go hard count specialist EJ up to the task.
EDIT: remember Field of Dreams and "Moonlight Graham?" The guy in the baseball encyclopedia who played 1 game, coming in as a defensive sub for one inning and never coming to the plate. Matt Cassel was never given the chance to screw up, hence he is pretty high on this list ... Cassel's starting QB record as a Bill: 1-0. Perfection.
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Dimarco is a pure FB. Tolbert is a bulldozer. Taiwan jones is the fast guy.
I get that, and I think this all makes great sense if Shady stays healthy. But ...
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I'm sure it's been posted on the neverending "J WILL CUT" thread, but he always struck me as a bit slow, and the numbers reflect that. 4.33 40 time for Taiwan pre-draft (yup, that was a while ago), 4.46 for Banyard (same), 4. 59 for JW. So again, I get the special teams thing, and particularly the need for speed on ST. But I also get that the need for fast RBs backing up Shady is amplified when 2 positions are already taken up by the plodding DiMarco and Tolbert. That's still the thing that bothers me - signing both of them.
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Fortunately, our star RB is never hurt.
Joe Bastage and Productive Taiwan......Thunder and Lightning.
Exactly.
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i don't get the comparison. Starters aren't expected to play ST. Depth players are.
I'm not sure "primary backup RB" is in the same situation as, say, 3rd TE ....
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@sigmundbloom
McDermott indicated that Williams lost out in BUF bc of special teams, that may keep him on street until RB injuries strike
I get the emphasis on special teams - I mean, a lot of games are won or lost through good/bad ST play - but maybe this is getting a bit ridiculous, given that it's also a partial justification for signing the hideous Joe Webb?
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Is he any good on ST or as a WR?
ST: not really.
WR: no.
QB: really no.
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Didn't I see a "Josh Rosen sucks" post last night, round about halftime? Where'd it go?
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Weird. Must be a suspension coming.
Or maybe he just isn't that good. Better RBs - Ronnie Hillman comes to mind - are still out there waiting to be picked up by someone.
EDIT: Ronnie Hillman turns 26 next week. He ran for 863 yards the year before last!
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Flutie
Taylor
Fitz
Bledsoe
Orton
I beg you guys to go back and look at Bledsoe's Bills tenure after the 1st half of the 1st year. He was AWFUL. We remember his tenure way more fondly than we should.
But maybe that says more about the competition than it does about Bledsoe? I mean, the fact that a guy put up a really good half season as a Bills starting QB causes him to be remembered as the best of the last couple decades?
EDIT: ok, I had to look. Bledsoe's first year, Game 12, Dolphins (ahead of us in the standings at the time): 38-21 win. 15-27, 306, 3 TDs, 132.6 QBR. I thought it was a big win. In the end, it was just a win.
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Bledsoe
Flutie
Fitz
Taylor
Orton
For some reason or another I enjoyed watching the games when Fitz and Orton were playing even though the teams may not have been as good.
I agree. I think it was the "I don't know what the hell I'm going to get" factor.
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Time to update my answer
Hey, the question wasn't "Who's in line for a big year WITH THE BILLS?" so there's still hope for JWill ...
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Flutie
Tyrod
Fitz
Bledsoe
AVP
Yes Bledsoe that low. Flutie was the only real winning QB in this era (Orton had a winning record as well, but. No.)
I like that Alex Van Pelt is the 5th best starting QB we've had in the last 20 years. 3-8 career W-L, 64.1 QBR. And here's the thing - I can't really make a great argument that you're wrong.
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Ouch. What a list. I guess I'd go:
1. Bledsoe
2. Tyrod
3. Orton
4. Flutie
5. Fitz
And after that, there's really not much to separate #6 from #16, but I'm pretty confident that Joe Webb would set a new floor if given the chance.
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The playoff game Webb started was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen a playoff team do. The Vikings would have been better off direct snapping it to AP every play with an extra fullback instead of having a QB. I really hope the only plan for this guy is STs
11 for 30, 1 TD, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 7 rushes for 68 yards. 54.9 QB rating. I think I see why he never threw another pass in the following 3 seasons.
TJ Yates playoff "career" has been, well, better in the first round: 11-20, 159, 1 TD, 0 INT, 2 sacks, 1 rush for -2 yards, 97.7 rating ...
... and even worse in the 2nd: 17-35, 184, 3 INTs ... 28.8 rating.
Any way you cut it, these are some awful QBs, but that's what's out there in the "freely available talent" pool, Jordan Palmer Emergency division.
At times like this the "Kaepernick is being blackballed" conspiracy theorists (RG3 too; heck, maybe even Tebow!) start to sound reasonable ....
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He started out just saying STFU
Then he upgraded the post by adding the FU part.
I noticed that. I hit "reply" to the STFU post, but then when it appeared I discovered I was replying to "FU. STFU." This bothered me because I'm sure my reply to the added FU part would have been far more clever. The level of discourse continues to rise around here.
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Just curious who is worse? the protesters and the thousands of fans who are just outside of the gates pounding those last few beers while the anthem is being played?
Funny, but this makes a really good point. We do it - stop eating and drinking, fumble for a place to put down the beer, try to find a hand to take off the ballcap - because we know others are watching and we don't want to appear disrespectful. Which is a different thing than actually feeling a deep sense of respect and behaving accordingly. Virtue signaling. -
This whole anthem protest thing got off on the wrong foot because patient zero - Kaepernick - has absolutely no judgment. Remember, he's the guy wearing the Castro shirt. Anyone now refusing to stand respectfully when the anthem is played will be associated with Kaep, who either isn't very smart or is almost ridiculously ignorant of the larger world ...
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So, do you believe the Bills have the right to terminate him for his protest? If so, you could not be more wrong. There would be a union grievance filed immediately, and upheld. Your Curt Schilling example , if it's even true, proves nothing. And of course Schilling has demonstrated time and again that he is a complete moron.
Yes he has. But by the way, has Kaepernick demonstrated that he is actually an intelligent, thoughtful person engaging in a well thought-out form of protest? Not that I've seen. (I have heard Arian Foster, and I would say that he is an intelligent man and his various stands have been principled.)
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The key word in your diatribe in "our". There are many people in this country who doesn't want to share America with others. Matter of fact as I was driving down the street the other day a Caucasian woman yelled to me out her window to go back to your country. I initially was mad, then I laughed because she didn't know my ancestry. We were here 1st.
Interesting. And on a related point - it strikes me as odd that we haven't seen the Kaep issue come up with baseball, where 30 percent of the players this year are foreign born. Would we get angry if they sit? Or would the anger be reserved for them kneeling, or not standing reverently, or whatever? None of this debate makes much sense when you take a closer look. That's why it's all about virtue signaling.
Ranking the Starting QB's Since Kelly
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Well, yeah, but that kind of misses the point. I guess Kelly (an excellent QB for 11 seasons) + Kemp (excellent for about 4 using the standards for his time) = 15 excellent seasons, which is exactly how many excellent seasons Brady has put up. But there's a difference in degree of excellence there. And Bledsoe had about 6 very good seasons with the Pats, 3 total seasons with the Bills, so it isn't a wash there ...