The Frankish Reich

Not since his rookie season have we seen Allen look this helpless

And Shakir breaks a tackle to prove me wrong!

Has anyone other than Cook broken a tackle tonight? And that includes Allen

There's a really good argument that Dick Jauron did more with the talent he had than McD is doing with the talent he has.

Exactly. This game will not prove anything about the relative merits of these teams. I hate, hate, hate football on Thursday. Eff college, just play on Saturday night.

Oh man. This is getting ugly

Don't give up so quickly.

Rousseau? MIA this year. Bernard? Didn't we think he was, like, good last year? Or better than Edmunds? The DTs: disappeared, or injured. Bosa: pass rush, yes; subpar Von against the run. Benford: injury risk = injury reality. Milano: playing out the string. Epenesa: already in his decline phase? Without ever really being good?

Worst Bills defense ever? No. I checked. 1971. The year I became a Bills fan. Worst scoring defense in the entire NFL. Balanced out by the worst scoring offense in the entire NFL. How an 7 year old became a Bills fan that year is an eternal mystery.

Probably. At least in the McD years. I'd have to think about those 1980s teams though.

Let's end the first half thread on some unconventional wisdom: our defense hasn't been good since Terrell Edmunds left.

Agree - everyone else is expensive and/or on the downside of his career.

Good Lord, our defense is awful. And how about zero pressure on Mills.

Someone said John Lynch last week. I laughed. And then I thought, hey, not so crazy ...

I don't know when he turned into a bigtiime hitter, but I'm glad he did.