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Lol stop. We're talking playoffs stats, when it really matters!! Not some meaningless regular season stats. Joe Burrow's play in the playoffs to date....by every measurement has been average so far. His QB Rating, his QBR, his yards, his tds passes per game, his td to int ratio, every measurement comes back average or below average. Only one he excels in, that's riding his teammate's coattails in the playoffs and then taking the credit for it.

Stop no one has had a better PLAYOFF defense over the last 2 years than Cincy. A defense that has held down offenses such as KC at KC last year and both at Buffalo and at KC again this year. I see you changed it to the Bengals, not Burrow at the end if your response. That I've never denied, the Bengals have had the better record in the last 2 playoffs. Our defense by the end of the year wasn't better. Not minus Hyde, Miller, Hamlin(Hydes replacement), with Poyer and Tre White playing no where near 100%. Hell Poyer could barely run at the end. That's 12 All-Pro selections between them. There was too much talent lost to be a good defense and they weren't from mid-season on. Oh yeah I forgot Free Safety #3 gets hurt in the Bengals game, on to #4. And on and on it went.

Automatically disagree with takes that gives a single player credit for a team accomplishment. 12 other qbs could've reached the Super Bowl last year with that defense, that coaching staff, that WR trio and that fg kicker. But hey go give all the credit to the man who did the least out of those I listed on his team. Averages 22 ppg, led an offense that only scored a td on 16.6% of their drives, but kicked fgs on 33.2% of their droves. Led the offense to 7 tds in 4 games. Way to go Joe, you killed it!!!

Yeah Allen and the Bills made the AFC Championship Game in 2020. Allen has statistically been the better QB than Burrow in the playoffs, but then again several QBs are. Burrow has led a playoff offense that averages only 22 ppg now 7 playoff games into his career. He's lost twice with a defense that's never given up more than 24 points and averages giving up 18.8 ppg in those 7 games. And a fg kicker who is 19/19. He's led them on only 14 td drives and 19 fg drives lol. That's horrible QB play. As I said he's so far behind Allen statically in 1 less game in the playoffs that if he was to equal Allen's numbers this is what his next game would have look like: 508 yards passing, 8 passing tds, 0 ints, 316 yards rushing, 1 rushing td, 16 yards receiving, 1 receiving td. Getting to and/or winning a Super Bowl is a team accomplishment, credit shouldn't go to a single player. Unless maybe where elite play warrants it. It doesn't in this case. Burrow has been surrounded by an elite playoff defense, an elite playoff kicker, the best WR trio in the game, a great coaching staff and he's squandered it 2 years running. Josh could only be so lucky to have everything Burrow has had at his disposal. What's that Tee Higgins wants #1 WR money? Time's a ticking Joe until the playing field is on more evened ground.

He threw quickly a bunch of times in the NE playoff game and mixed in some longer passes. 4 of his 5 tds were less than 20 yds and 3 of those 4 were quick throws. Have no idea what you're referring to there. Just rewatched the game yesterday. Started the game against KC the same way. As the game progressed and they saw a clear weakness with honey badger leaving the game. Once they identified that they started taking deeper shots to Gabe. And yes when you hit on almost all your deep shots over a 2 game stretch, with most going for tds, it's going to be the most effective part of your game. He was lethal with the deep ball in the playoffs last year.

I don't get it either. I've said this the last couple days now, he was quick and decisive in the playoffs last year and in the first few games this year, then in games 4-6 it all slowly went away. I don't know if all the injuries early on made him feel he had to do more or what, but there was a clear difference in play between Josh weeks 1-3 and late season/playoff Josh this year. He was so quick getting the ball out in week 1 that Chris Collinsworth compared his play that night to Brady, saying something like If I didn't know any better I swear we're watching Brady tonight. He mentioned just how fast the ball was coming out on several occasions. Part of Dorsey's job is keeping Allen on schedule, he needs to do alot better next year.

Burrow and Chase will probably get what somewhere around $250 million guaranteed between them? Maybe more. Those 2 alone will take 25% of Mike Brown's net worth outside of the value of the team, that will need to go into escrow.

Statistically one is better than the other in the postseason.....and it ain't Brady.

Considering one spans his whole 17 year career and the other is only 5 years into his and has already placed higher in said mvp voting, not too similar at all.

The biggest thing Elway needed was a run game to take pressure off him. Something Reeves didn't provide, but Shanahan did. When Reeves departed the Broncos were a bottom 5ish running team and once Shanahan got here he immediately established a yearly top 5 rushing attack. In the 2 years they won the Super Bowl they finished 2nd & 4th in rushing even though Elway only averaged 150 yards per year. We've had 2 straight OCs that refused to run the ball once Allen's play took a leap prior to 2020. Many of us here have been begging the Bills to start running it more for a couple years now. The 1st OC then leaves to become a HC his team is instantly a top 8 team in rushing attempts and top 4 in rushing yards. The positive effect would be two fold. 1 it would take pressure off of Josh and establishing a run game would help open up the passing game, especially the play action game. Want to get the defenses out of the 2 deep safty look this offense sees alot, this is one way of doing it. And 2 how do you protect a defense you don't trust or under performs in certain situations? By limiting their time on the field. I think this offense would be lethal with a good, consistent running game.

Especially in the Super Bowl. Never had a qb rating lower than 100. His last 3 he averaged ~330 yards and had 10 tds with 0 ints and a qb rating of 134 collectively in those 3 games. The most impressive part about that is this was done in the mid to late 80s when defenses got away with alot more in the secondary and defenses could and did blow up WRs and QBs on the regular.

So the better comparison would be the Bills(Allen era) vs the Chargers(Rivers era), no? Because that's where the comparisons stop. Statically in the postseason Allen has been the far superior QB between the 2. Allen 17 tds, 4 ints on 309 attempts in 8 games. Rivers 16 tds, 10 ints on 401 attempts in 12 games. QB Rating Allen 99.6, Rivers 85.3. Yds per game - Allen 2,334 yds/8 games - 291.8. Rivers 2,965/12 games - 247.1. We haven't even got to the running aspect yet.

If Allen was playing for any of the 4 teams playing last week he would've already had at least 1 Super Bowl title. His career postseason play is among the best ever and that's just on the passing end. He's by far the best running qb on that list and the biggest receiving threat too(Paging Mr. Daboll) lol. A perfect 1 target, 1 catch, 16 yards, 1 td.

No Allen's game was at its best while being fully in control and having, statistically, the best postseason ever by a qb. It was like he was Neo in the Matrix last year. We got a quick look at it again during the first few weeks of this year, then it slowly vanished away. I think as the injuries mounted early this year he felt the pressure to produce more. Then his own injury came, limiting his game. The best part about it is in the postseason, statistically, he's been a lot better than everyone listed(Including Ben, Brady, Manning) besides Mahomes, in every stat. I mean Brady is considered the goat, especially in the playoffs, his career postseason td/int ratio 2.25/1, Josh's 4.25/1, passing ypg Brady - 279, Josh - 292, comp% Brady 62.5, Josh 63.8, ypa Brady 6.98, Josh 7.55, QB Rating Brady 89.8, Josh 99.0. Seems like one had a team and coach around him that helped lead to his playoff success and the other had been left to do it mostly on his own.

So going by the above I'm guessing you're saying Burrow is Manning because they both play great in the regular season, but average in the playoffs? If it's anything close to what I said above and based on the comment Burrow's stats impress no one, I think it is, then the Allen comparison to Rivers makes even less sense. Josh has been statistically the best qb in the playoffs of the group of 6 players you listed(7 if you count Newton) not named Patrick Mahomes. This isn't my opinion, it a fact. Better comp%, yds per game, td/int ratio(A little over 4/1) by a mile. Besides Mahomes the closest is a little over 2/1, tds per game and QB Rating. He just hasn't had any help from his team. Put him on KC or Cincy and he already has 2 Super Bowl wins.

Rivers received 2 votes in 2008 & 2 in 2009. The one year you provided that gets me is 2010, he didn't receive any votes, so I'm not sure why you listed it? Brady was the unanimous choice that year, receiving all 50 votes. Imo you can't be a serious contender without a single vote to your credit. Rivers never finished higher than 3rd in the mvp race and Josh has already equaled his mvp vote total for his career. I see your bad takes on Josh and the other top qbs continue. So far you have 1 person that agrees with you, a known troll, that should tell you enough.

Like a bunch of kicking & screaming kids who didn't get ice cream. But....but..MOMMY!!! Crying all the way in their race to the bottom.

In the Bills defense Josh had alot further to go to be ready to even dream of going deep into the playoffs than Burrow once entering the league and some bad luck. He clearly wasn't ready in year 1 or year 2. In year 3(2020) Diggs, Brown and Beasley were all banged up entering the playoffs. I agree with the last 2 years that they couldn't though.

Which is surprising seeing how that's the one thing he's been great at in the playoffs, leading his offense on a fg drive.

NO Thanksgiving Day game please. Losing Tre & Von to ACL injuries the last 2 turkey day games is enough to know it's bad mojo.

Hello, welcome to the game of football. There's so much wrong here, you got to be new to the game. First off the Pegulas aren't worried about their roi with the Bills. They've spent a ton of money on their facilities, facilities that are known to be among the best in the league. Have no idea where you got that one from. Also Terry puts tons of money up front for contracts, again it up there with other top teams. Terry pumps alot of money back into his team and spares no expense for his players and coaches. Next the Bills are going to grass because it's safer for their players. I'm glad owners are tired of watching their players blow out ACLs because of turf. Tre's & Von's ACLs both on turf(And Thanksgiving). And lastly if you ever heard Josh talk about Buffalo and the Bills you know he's not going anywhere.

Damn it's nice to see someone else say this. I've been saying this since a few weeks before the Monday night matchup. He owes all his postseason success to his defense & to his fg kicker McPherson, who's 19 for 19 on fg attempts in the last 2 years. He got credited and praised for getting the Bengals to the Super Bowl even though his play was absolutely average. Led his offense to only 7 tds in 4 games, Josh did that by the end of game 1 last postseason. 14 fgs in 4 games, he's praised while the team kicks twice as many fgs as they score tds. If that was Josh all you would've heard was Josh Allen can't get it in the endzone when it matters most, on a loop, over and over again.

I'd be more Inclined to think this if he didn't get off to a blazing start to the year. Through the first 6 games he was the front runner for MVP and on pace to break or come close to all sorts of records. The Green Bay game is where his play started to decline, committing 8 turnovers in a 3 week span.

One team with a QB still on his rookie deal and the other on a much more lucrative 2nd Contract.

The processing is there, it was on full display in the playoffs last year and the first 2-3 games this year. So much so that in week 1 Chris Collinsworth said something to the effect of "If I didn't know better I swear we were watching Brady tonight". He was going to the checkdowns quickly and taking deep shots when they made sense, like hitting a couple deep passes later in the Rams game when the corners started sitting on the shorter routes. His play started to get spotty in weeks 4-6 and then fell off a cliff after that. To me that's just as much on the coaching, if not more so, for failing to get him back on track.