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The EC was the most widely accepted option to electing a POTUS - you continue to confuse the 3/5 compromise and how to count members of Congress with the purpose of the EC. If the EC offends you - and you think it’s the result of slavery and thus a relic that should be sent to the ash heap….guess what…. Then you need to apply that to near every compromise they made. That it’s all about slavery thus the whole constitution, Bill of Rights, the States themselves…..all invalid. Bc we needed to appease the Slave Power….. Oh wait! Does it make sense now folks. They actually do believe this and think we should set the Constitution on fire.
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Labor Day is over - and here we are
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Ok good so we’ve established the EC had nothing to do with slavery. You still want to take that position? They also put in the Constitution how we can amend it. It’s tough to do. 3/4 of the states? 38/50?? So arcane. Should we do away with that process as well? Anyway - I’ll let the good folks not at wiki explain: FALSE CLAIM #2: THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT SLAVERY Some have made the false historical claim that the Electoral College was enacted to protect slavery. Critics charge that because three-fifths of the slave population was included in the representation tabulation, it supposedly gave Southern states a political advantage with more Electoral College votes. Significantly, though, when the proposal for the Electoral College was voted on during the Constitutional Convention, Northern states with a lower slave population, unanimously voted for the proposal; yet, with the exception of Virginia, the Southern states, with a higher population of slaves, voted against it.7 Moreover, when the Constitution was drafted, slavery was practiced in every state, and the number of slaves did not give the Southern states a particular advantage. According to the 1790 Census, New York and Virginia were the largest slave-holding states north and south of the Mason–Dixon Line.8 If you subtracted the entire slave populations present in each state, Virginia still had a larger population of free people (over 136,000 more) than New York and still would have had more representatives in Congress and a larger electoral vote. In fact, the Electoral College “contributed to ending slavery, since Abraham Lincoln, having only earned 39.9% of the popular vote in 1860, nevertheless won a crushing victory in the Electoral College—leading many Southern slaveholders to stampede to secession in 1860 and 1861. They could run the numbers as well as anyone, and realized that the Electoral College would only produce more anti-slavery Northern presidents.”9 The Electoral College requires candidates to appeal to a broad cross-section of the American people, which in turn moderates and combats extremism and passions harmful to the country as a whole. https://www.heritage.org/the-essential-electoral-college/debunking-myths-and-misinformation
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Elon Musk appreciation thread
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Elon Musk appreciation thread
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Dear Libs, When Musk or Milei talk about making Argentina Great Again - are they referring to some 1950s segregated society? Is it coded in racism or white supremacy? MAGA and a vote for Trump.. Liberty over Authority. -
Did you just site Wiki??? Slavery was a dying institution in 1787. The issues of 1787 - of which there were many among the states - slavery was not the driver of an electoral college. Trying to manipulate their population in Congress yes everyone understands they did that. But not because their concern was the presidency - an office in 1789 that was absolutely not viewed with the power and influence as it would by 1900. The SCOTUS hadn’t even defined its powers yet until Marbury. But carry on with your attempts to rewrite history. The word slavery doesn’t even appear in the constitution. The country wasn’t even sure it would survive this new experiment - the British still occupied the Great Lakes and the new nation was confined to the Mississippi River. With no clue how the next 30 years would play out. The “slave power’s” influence was nowhere near as prevalent in 1787 as it would be by 1807. The Founders in 1787 thought slavery would eventually die out. The cotton gin changed everything. You’re looking at these events thru the prism of a communist in 2024. Just like you were programmed growing up. To hate everything about the Founding.
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Omg omg
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European Elections 2024 - BLOODBATH
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2024 Election Polls - President - Senate - House
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Not true. It was created as a compromise between letting the congress or the people elect the POTUS Very rich considering this is now 2 elections in a row your “machine” has picked your nominee, doesn’t let it talk to the press, and you don’t care. Massive hypocrites If the other way around they’d only campaign in NYC, L.A., Chicago, and several other urban areas. 70 percent of the country would never ever meet the nominee. The system makes every square inch of this country and the people who live there, matter. Again, this coming from the party of Superdelegates and Joe - it’s the easy way or the hard way Biden. As is the blue wall and soon - New York State.
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What’s amazing is there have been like 7 of these moments. It’s been 5 weeks.
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Arcane rules - these rules (republicanism) are imbedded in our Constitution because the Founders understood plus one democracy is destined for failure. Checks and balances, limited government, and yes the electoral college are in and of themselves checks against tyranny. It brings a smile to my face knowing you’ve already got this “excuse” ready to go for November. It’s been discussed on left wing Twitter for the last several days - since her disaster “interview” on CNN But I’m not sure she’s winning the popular vote anyway.