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Agreed, especially when you consider 13 seconds as a precursor to this season. I don't care that the team won 13 games, teams that win still have weaknesses.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Chris Jones doesn't hurt either. Dude is one of the more dominant players.

I watched Chris Jones play every snap yesterday. It was also stated that the Chiefs do NOT use spots up for Special Teams guys who don't play.

Exactly, I've been over there and gave up because of the jerks. I've played and coached hockey at a pretty high level and people talked down to me about hockey.

You guys can do whatever you want with this information. But, a friend of mine went to school with a certain Bills DL at PSU. He said the whole week leading up to the game the guys thought game plan was bad, wouldn't work and would lead to defeat. He also was in a booth and met JA17 dad after he'd a few after the game and he felt like Dorsey is clueless and can't stand him. Again, do whatever you want this, but if true, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, there is a big disconnect.

Those W/L records are team stats, and Allen being 0-3 vs Mahomes is a little disengenuos because in no way was 13 secs. Allen's fault.

The majority of our OL are ALL STARS! ***** Allen just couldn't get it done!

I'm the green-eyed monster watching this game. Just so damn jealous.

I'm jealous!

To me this is the answer as well. It really kind of snuck up on a lot of people about how our player selection has been so abysmal.

I would bring in a C/G type from early in draft would conceivably be the long term answer at C or compete with Boettger/ Bates as a rookie. I would also bring in a veteran OG as insurance would can threaten them. In addition, If a potential long term solution at LT became available I'd pull the trigger and move Dawkins to guard. At any rate, I'm also bringing in a veteran T to compete with Brown/Doyle. I'm applying redudancy to the problem. It's too important and has to be solved now.

It's very trying putting a up low 40s grade on PFF!

Yeah just bash him because he's older. ***** doesn't what he's talking about LOL

Well said! 4 verts and Josh on the playground with the defense counting to 2 Mississippis

So your good to go, Thanks! I'm not and it's not overreacting

Yeah I'm glad they let up on us!

No and quite frankly I don't know how any of you can! We've failed in big moments, we can't adjust, we haven't developed, we haven't selected well. We've spent tons of money at the neglect of offense. What does that leave? It ought to be 100% no across the board.

Nah. I get that people are searching for reasons to feel better about what happened and to understand it. Unfortunately, I don't think people are overreacting if the goal is to win a Super Bowl. We've been behind the curtain and seen the wizard 3 years in a row now. Until I see McBeane step up and say things that motivate me to believe, unlike yesterday's PC, my opinion is the patient is sick and everything should be on the table with the team. It all starts with accountability and admitting mistakes have been made. Blaming bad luck, injuries and being emotionally drained won't cut it. I hope it's just a matter of some time is needed and McBeane begins to get the Swag back.

I don't know. I started to wonder last year and this year I have larger doubts. He's a great human being I think. High character, honest, with loyalty and integrity. However, during the game I said some derogatory comments on the particular subject. My wife responded, that especially since the Damar situation she sees him as a great human being . I responded, my Mother is a wonderful human being, that doesn't mean I want her trying to make a defensive stop for the Bills.😀

What would I do? First of all I wouldn't give a press conference like yesterday. Then, I would begin to re-establish confidence and energy in the organization and fan base by proclaiming that everything was on the table. No stone would go unturned, tell everyone we have challenges and road blocks but we would not be deterred. Everyone including myself was accountable, mistakes have been made, and change was coming because what we've done isn't good enough. Not give a press conference like yesterday where I look bewildered, defeated and the only optimisim I offer is to roll it back because that's all I know.

There's no way in hell he gets fired people! So there's that I was pissed and disappointed just like many, time gives you perspective. He will re-evaluate and is motivated to win and improve. Personally, I don't think they'll drop Dorsey, but they will revamp the Oline (which must be done). We'll also see another good receiver brought in. I'm willing to see what happens with these moves and it being Dorsey's second go round. As for the defense, I think Frazier is in trouble, as is the Dline coach, and some scouts. We all have plenty of perspective on this defense now. I think McBeane had their collective heart's ripped out watching it. Know way they roll with it again.

It doesn't move the needle for me.

Interesting topic, although as some indicated it may seem like kicking the can down the road, it is a useful tactic that all teams employ with regards to key players. The rules for cap space charges upwards and the values just go on up so it can be useful at gaining discounts.

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