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I'm the biggest Sammy fan in the world, and I think its possible he ends up being the better player. However, they give the awards for production not for wholdaa shoulda coulda.

On my link? I have EJ at 48. Even with Derek Carr and between Phil Simms and Kerry Collins. Not too bad.

Bridgewater ranked #26. Marino 1 Jim 6. Rookie QB seasons. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=1970&year_max=2014&season_start=1&season_end=1&age_min=0&age_max=99&league_id=&team_id=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_qb=Y&c1stat=gs&c1comp=gt&c1val=8&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5comp=&c5gtlt=lt&c6mult=1.0&c6comp=&order_by=pass_adj_net_yds_per_att_index&draft=0&draft_year_min=1936&draft_year_max=2014&type=&draft_round_min=0&draft_round_max=99&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&draft_pick_in_round=0&draft_league_id=&draft_team_id=&college_id=all&conference=any&draft_pos_is_qb=Y&draft_pos_is_rb=Y&draft_pos_is_wr=Y&draft_pos_is_te=Y&draft_pos_is_rec=Y&draft_pos_is_t=Y&draft_pos_is_g=Y&draft_pos_is_c=Y&draft_pos_is_ol=Y&draft_pos_is_dt=Y&draft_pos_is_de=Y&draft_pos_is_dl=Y&draft_pos_is_ilb=Y&draft_pos_is_olb=Y&draft_pos_is_lb=Y&draft_pos_is_cb=Y&draft_pos_is_s=Y&draft_pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y ODBJ ranked 1. Ahead of even Randy Moss ROY. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=1970&year_max=2014&season_start=1&season_end=1&age_min=0&age_max=99&league_id=&team_id=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_wr=Y&pos_is_rec=Y&c1stat=gs&c1comp=gt&c1val=8&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5comp=&c5gtlt=lt&c6mult=1.0&c6comp=&order_by=rec_yds_per_g&draft=0&draft_year_min=1936&draft_year_max=2014&type=&draft_round_min=0&draft_round_max=99&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&draft_pick_in_round=0&draft_league_id=&draft_team_id=&college_id=all&conference=any&draft_pos_is_qb=Y&draft_pos_is_rb=Y&draft_pos_is_wr=Y&draft_pos_is_te=Y&draft_pos_is_rec=Y&draft_pos_is_t=Y&draft_pos_is_g=Y&draft_pos_is_c=Y&draft_pos_is_ol=Y&draft_pos_is_dt=Y&draft_pos_is_de=Y&draft_pos_is_dl=Y&draft_pos_is_ilb=Y&draft_pos_is_olb=Y&draft_pos_is_lb=Y&draft_pos_is_cb=Y&draft_pos_is_s=Y&draft_pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y Thanks for posting this YOLO.

Really. Wow that surprises me even more.

They got it wrong IMO. Beckham had a rookie season for the ages. Bridgewater meh 50 QBR. Imo it also matters who will be the better player, and there is no question who that is ODB!

And, I would also add that throwing on the run has never been regarded as a strength of EJ, even though he is considered "athletic" whatever that means.

If they win the draft lottery and get Conor McDavid it will be happening. If not at least second pick and Jack Eichel.

No. He would be a sounding board for Whaley and a Bridge to the Owners. His expertise is Pro Personnel.

He's a better version of Calvin Pace.

Part of 10 Conference Championship Games and 4 Super Bowls. Not too shabby.

Seattle 24-17. I like the matchup of their secondary and linebackers against New England. Believe Seattle will be able to run and Russell will cause enough damage to win.

I didn't want to show my age. But seriously if the defense isn't ready for it. Why not?

Thats actually what I had in mind. The split back formation. I think it is important to have one who is a bigger more physical presence, and another who is very different with speed being the primary value.

Yeah that was terrific you're right. One of the best.

One thing that really gets me is in short yardage when teams put a single back alone. It seems to me from observation that teams guess that he is getting it and are right 90% of the time.

Exactly my point well stated. I think if you look back in time it us the teams looking to be a little more innovative than the current dog. I know all the stuff about it being a copy cat league blah blah blah. The fact of the matter is just doing what everyone else is all ready doing just gets you even. If you want to be ahead, you have to get ahead. This is how the game evolves.

Guess I know where I stand on this board!

I don’t post new topics a lot, but things are slow on this board right now. I have been having some thoughts about offensive/defensive strategy. And, who better to solicit opinions from than my friends here on the Stadium Wall! Current NFL Offensive Philosophy: Offenses are Primarily Spreading out the defense with multiple receivers/Tight ends and one feature back. Think DeMarco Murray. On occasion , when the team’s second best runner comes on the field, he just replaces this guy. The defense still KEYS on the primary runner knowing he will carry the ball 95-99% of the team. The only run option is the occasional end around. Yeah sure some teams try to run the read option as a second option, if they have a QB who can run it. Also, teams like to throw bubble screens as a complement to this. Defenses are built to defend all this of course by using Speed, multiple DBs, and smaller LBs etc. My observation: There is not a second legitimate running threat. Except the QB, who you don’t want to get hit and hurt. As for the bubble screen option as a complement to the running game, teams are getting better at defending it on the perimeter. Defenses would have a tough time adjusting to a legimate second running back threat on the field. My contrarian thoughts: Play a REAL fullback running option, combined with your feature back, this guy needs to someone who is a real threat and the D needs to worry about him. Preferably this is bigger, inside runner . Maybe, I’m thinking Boobie Dixon. Summation: Yes I know teams will put in the Jon Kuhn types near the goal line. And, it usually opens right up because defenses are still focusing on defending other things. I’m talking about employing this formation with a better runner and more than just goal line situations. I'm after another option for the Defense to defend in the running game. I think this approach could be innovative and could be a competitive advantage for teams that employ it properly. Not saying I’m an offensive genius , but I’m surprised no one really does what I’m talking about now. Especially teams like the Bills who want to run and pound the ball, and have a problem with the QB position. Perhaps we will see more of it at some point. Offensive Innovation as an adjustment to defenses has a long history from Gillman to Brown to Coryell to Walsh to Gibbs right up to the current guys. Have any of you ever thought about this? Could it work as an adjustment to the current defense? I’m interested in your thoughts and opinions.

I disagree that their averages are similar. Foles has a 6.87 ANY/A and EJ is at 5.07. I agree we shouldn't just give up on him. But, what is wrong with wanting better?options?

This x 1000

LOL. Yeah what a jerk he ended up being.

I always thought Sammy reminded me of a Running Back who can play WR. Even his size, 6-1, 210 lbs fits the profile. He has to be a nightmare to tackle on a bubble screen by DBs who are being blocked. It was one of the great mysteries of last seasons playcalling fiasco. My guess is when he hurt his ribs early on they didn't want to use it and lost track of it. Inexcusable.

No kidding. Empathy is lacking.

We need a little luck with the QB position. At least these guys are high draft choice, higher upside guys. Maybe they stay healthy for us.

Jeez I'd be happy to get either Foles or Bradford. Maybe even Locker.