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Not in this case....a tie still knocks you out of the Playoffs for all intents and purposes. 0% or 3%.....no real difference.

A tie was basically the same as a loss. We are only 25% to get in even with the win yesterday. If we would have tied, the chances would have been like 3%. So, a tie and a loss were essentially the same thing. A tie wasn't an option yesterday.

But at the time of the decision, you don't know that you are going to win the game, either. That's the point. If the game ends in a tie or loss, then everyone would say it was the wrong decision to punt. You can't know the outcome at the time you make the decision. In that moment where the decision is made it comes down to this: People supporting the punt are basically saying this: You were more confident in the defense forcing a punt, a WR playing QB leading us 60-70 yards down the field in a blizzard, & scoring (all in under 4 minutes) than you were in making 3 feet in 1 play. Forget the result of the game. You don't know it when you are making the decision. It is only about making the choice that gives you the best chance to win......because a tie kills your season. You have to win. So.... more confident in the defense forcing a punt, a WR playing QB leading us 60-70 yards down the field in a blizzard, & scoring (all in under 4 minutes) > 3 feet in 1 play or more confident in 3 feet in 1 play > defense forcing a punt, a WR playing QB leading us 60-70 yards down the field in a blizzard, & scoring (all in under 4 minutes)

The outcome of the game has nothing to do with whether the call to punt was correct or not. Forget the outcome for a minute and let's just break the call down at the time it was made. Put yourself in that situation, not knowing what the outcome of the game will be. In this situation, you have 2 options: 1. PUNT People supporting the punt are basically saying this: You were more confident in the defense forcing a punt, a WR playing QB leading us 60-70 yards down the field in a blizzard, & scoring (all in under 4 minutes) than you were in making 3 feet in 1 play. DOWNSIDE - You can't make it back into scoring position and lose or tie the game, ending your season. RISK: Ends your season if you run out of time 2. GO FOR IT People supporting the decision to go for it a saying this: I like my chances of getting 3 feet in 1 play more than the odds of the defense forcing a punt, a WR playing QB leading us 60-70 yards down the field in a blizzard, & scoring (all in under 4 minutes) DOWNSIDE - You don't make it, but the Colts are still only at their 40 yard line and you can still hope for the defense to get a stop and do the exact thing that the punt supporters are hoping for. Only difference is maybe 20 yards in field position. RISK: 20 yards of field position That's basically it. If you are more confident in all of those things happening than making 3 feet in 1 play, then that's fine. Me, I like my odds of getting 3 feet better. PS. Not only do you have to weigh these factors in this decision, but you also have to take into an account that a tie basically ends your season. So, if all of these things don't happen in those 4 minutes, and you tie.....your season is over. You have to keep in mind, even with the win, we are 25% to make the Playoffs. With a tie, we would have been around 3% or so. So, a tie was not an option. So, of the options above, you have to choose the one that you believe gives you the best chance to win, not tie.

No matter what the result, that punt is inexcusable. The coach got bailed out on 2 spectacular plays. Thiat punt is awful.

I WANT NO PART OF THIS PROCESS......

That is a fireable offense...... NO EXCUSE FOR THAT. We will never win with this coach.

Unless Shady breaks one, there is no way we win this game....

About to lose this game because of Tolbert and Vlad.... Fitting, though....

The 2 Coach's pets are really coming through for us today..... Way to go Tolbert and Vlad! Living up to expectations!

Wow.....what a kick!

Man.....KB is a beast out there. We haven't had a guy like this, maybe ever. Go for 2....No way you are kicking the extra point here.

That's a heck of a throw and catch there.... wow...

2 big runs by Shady and then they give it to Tolbert...... Why does he have to play?

THERE IS NO WAY HE WAS OUT OF THE TACKLE BOX!!!!

Tolbert the drive killer is back.....man..... Did not miss this guy at all.

I know the word "Dome" gets a bad rap by many here because they think that football should be played in the elements. And, while I do agree with that to a point, today's game might be a perfect example of why a dome will be needed when our new stadium is constructed. Not only will passing the ball be next to impossible, but nobody wants to go there and sit outside to watch this game today. While it might be OK to watch it on TV, only because of the weather, there is a reason that tickets are going for $4. Nobody wants to be outside in this stuff anymore. Would it be different if we were 8-4 or 9-3? Maybe.....but man, this game has a chance to be really ugly.

If you have actually watched the college games these guys play like I and so many others here have, instead of just looking at the box scores, you will know that there is still plenty of QB talent in the draft. Just because the numbers aren't eye-popping every single week doesn't mean it's on the QBs. Dropped balls, lack of talent surrounding these guys, poor coaches and systems, among many other things may contribute to the struggles of these guys at times. But talent is talent and there are a few QBs in this class that are beyond talented enough to be great at the next level. Whether we can get high enough to pick one of them is a different story. But no....the class is not overrated. It is just being picked apart, as all QB classes are when it's their turn. Don't fool yourself....there is really good QB talent in the draft.....providing everyone comes out.

I'll just say that not all checkdowns are created equal. There are checkdowns like Tyrod throws where it is a 3-7 yard dump off to a guy standing that results in an easy tackle short of the sticks and then there are other checkdowns that are thrown by real QBs to guys sprinting across the middle, in stride that allow playmakers to make plays. When was the last time you saw Taylor throw a ball like that, regardless of what down it is? YAC don't exist with the Bills and the QB is the biggest reason for it. Just go back and watch some of the old 90s Bills. Kelly didn't always throw it down the field to WRs that were wide open to pick up 3rd down conversions (although he did this plenty when available). Kelly would have 3rd and 10, find Andre Reed streaking over the middle at 6-7 yards, hit him in stride and Reed would take it for another 30. I am not sure Tyrod has ever made a throw like that.

I realize there are a ton of holes on this team and the picks we have are very valuable. However, I have had enough with the constant passive attitude when it comes to drafting a QB. If there is a guy they love, whoever it is, I hope they do whatever necessary to get him.

Good drive by Peterman and the Bills there. Not a fan of the fade call there, though. Hate that play in general. That where a healthy KB would make a huge difference by just boxing out a defender on a slant. Don't have that big target right now.

For better or worse.....TDs or picks.... He needs to play the rest of the year.

Bills should be going no huddle here. Keep the tempo up.

Look.....I never want to see anyone get injured, but this franchise needs to be done with Taylor for the rest of the season. For better or worse, ride with Peterman. What ever happens, happens. If we get blown out every week, so be it. But Taylor needs to have taken his last snap as a Bill.

Not overall......but his recent play is just brutal.....