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Yeah.....saw this when it happened. Not sure if he did it on purpose or not, but if he did, mad props to him. But yeah....that was very close to be very bad.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Bengals are not activating QB Joe Burrow by today’s 4 pm deadline, meaning he will be unable to play Sunday, per source. His debut will have to wait another week until Thanksgiving night against Baltimore. 9:53 AM · Nov 22, 2025 · 124.1K Views He's not playing against the Pats*...... because why should the Pats* have to play the Bengals with Burrow and Chase and have somewhat of a chance to be upset?

There really isn't too much of a silver lining. We lost. We got beat up. Multiple starters likely to IR for a team that already has a bunch of banged up players. Our WRs were exposed once again. Both of our lines got manhandled. Allen took a beating. Brady looked completely clueless out there even with the most obvious adjustments that needed to be made (adding an extra lineman to block when our 5 was getting eaten alive on every play, getting away from running mesh on just about every play right in front of the Texans defense that was waiting for it constantly, never once trying a shot down the field, etc.). Our defense, while better in the 2nd half still being unable to stop Davis Freaking Mills from putting up 20 in the first half. Missed XP, and multiple penalties on returns that held back our starting field position. I could go on, but you were looking for a silver lining. The only thing I can come up with is that with them winning, it separates them from KC a bit more and makes it harder for the Chiefs to get in as a Wild Card. I guess if we're going down this season, we may as well take the Chiefs with us if we can. Oh.....1 more positive.... we don't have to play until next Sunday.

Yeah.....that's probably the poster child for luckiest win. The Comeback is on there for sure. But this one would have been up there with as inept as they were for most of the night.

Wonder how healthy he is.... if he's healthy at all.

After that 4th and 27 play, there wasn't a doubt in my mind we weren't going to win that game. That was until it was 3rd and 1 and Brady just didn't try to pick up the first down. Should have run Allen, gotten the first down and then taken 4 shots at the end zone. The second he kept passing the ball I got worried real quick. Anderson made a great play on the tipped ball to Shakir, but it was the play call that bugged me the most. Run Allen up the middle, tush push or even out of shotgun.....just get the first down! But yeah.....regardless, if we would have won, it would have probably been one of the luckiest wins in team history.

The easy theme here is McDermott. That said, the OCs had their share of flaws. Dennison was flat out awful. Just too many things to even get into with him. Unqualified for the job. Daboll, in my opinion, is the type of OC that you want. Fiery, competitive, and driven to hang 40+ on the opponent every week. He schemed to his talent and worked on concepts to get certain guys open on any given play. He used defensive tendencies against the opponent, found the weakness, and worked to find ways to attack it. The problem was he probably errored on the side of passing a bit too much. That said, though, he didn't have much of a run game to count on. Our offensive line staff was bad and couldn't block things up well enough in the run game at times so Daboll eventually just got away from the run too much. The problem with this is that McDermott HATES the style Daboll wanted to run. Daboll wanted to run as many plays as possible in a game and wanted to score as fast as he could. But, McDermott wants a ball control offense, control TOP, and limit the opponent's number of possessions. Scoring too fast and putting his defense back out there (which struggled to keep opponents from scoring) was not something he wanted and that's why it was very contentious between them. Dorsey was kind of the exact opposite of what Brady is in terms of depth of target. Everything Dorsey ran was down the field and took a long time to develop. His running game wasn't great either. But he wasn't a schemer by any means. He called plays, but was never a guy to set out to fool anyone. He was competitive and wanted to score, but just didn't have the play design skills to do it effectively. Out of all the coordinators we have had under McDermott, I think Dorsey was the most reliant one on the actual skill and talent of the players on the field. Brady....well, we know what he is. He's McDermott's dream OC that is struggling to make things work. He wants to roll our 3 TEs and pound the ball, play a ball control offense, and control the clock. The problem is, he doesn't have a creative bone in his body. Every route is at or behind the LOS. The ball rarely travels over 15 yards in the air within the structure of the offense. The only time it gets pushed down the field is when Allen scrambles outside of structure and tries to make things happen. Everything is static. No choice or option routes. He has a list of plays and he just calls them with no real plan. Many coordinators run plays not necessarily to be successful, but to set up something bigger later in the game. He doesn't call plays with a plan. He runs mesh as part of his base play package on not only early downs, but in every situation because again.....he's not scheming guys open....he's just calling plays. Why is he not using max protect or bringing in an extra lineman to help block up front last night when everyone could see that our front was getting manhandled? Because he doesn't have a "plan".....he has plays that he calls. And when you couple this with a lack of talent at the WR position, it's a recipe for disaster and that's where we are now. I posted it in another thread last night....just look at Allen's passing chart. Not one ball over 15-20 yards down the field even ATTEMPTED, let along completed. So, Houston was plan a mix of zone and man all night with virtually every defender within 15 yards of the LOS and Brady never once tried to exploit this over the top. There's so much more to get in on with Brady, but it would take all day. So, in the end.....is it McDermott or the OCs? While the answer is both in many respects, but most of it is on McDermott because he is trying to find a guy to run the type of offense he wants to run that doesn't expose how bad his defense truly is by putting them on the field more. He wants a "yes man" to run a 50/50 offense to control the clock and win games by scoring in the low 20s. He hand picks guys that he believes can do enough on offense, but not be too good to outshine his defense and won't rile anyone up with calls to replace him with said offensive coordinator. It happened with Daboll because we were scoring a ton of points and his defense let us down in the end. Just think about it.....the last 2 games Daboll coached here was the Perfect Game and 13 Seconds. The offense was great in both games. Against KC, the offense did just about everything you could expect to in order to win that game on the road against a great team and McDermott's defense and coaching decisions BLEW that game. Yes, Daboll was going to get a head job somewhere because of the job he did here with the offense, but McDermott couldn't wait to get rid of him because he's the exact OC he fears.... a creative mind that knew how to put up points and did it quickly that a lot of fans were asking to take over for McDermott. But yeah.....in then end, this is McDermott's ship and he is well on his way to sinking it. Problem is, we have an owner that loves him and Beane and they probably have lifetime contracts at this point because Pegula doesn't want to fire them. Heck, just look at our hockey team. Awful year in and year out but because he loves the GM, he gets to sit there and do nothing to help the team day in and day out. So all of this "Fire McDermott and Beane talk"? Just forget about it. It's not happening, especially in a year they are heading into a brand new stadium.

Oh....there's a good chance he's gone, but just not now. They won't do it during the season because they don't have anyone else to call plays. Maybe Kromer could do it, but that's about it. And there is no chance McDermott calls Daboll in. Even if he did, he'd probably decline. Unfortunately, we're just stuck.....

You can't win an NFL football game when your pass game looks like this......... You just can't. To not take even 1 shot down the field, whether it is completed or not, is just unforgivable, especially when the Texans are playing 8-9 guys within 10-15 yards of the LOS. And all Brady does is run mesh over and over again right in front of them. What does he expect to gain by doing this? This isn't college where your WRs are just better than the defensive backs and they can just outrun them. This is the NFL and you win games with explosive plays, not running east and west every single freaking play. This is an embarrassment for any coordinator let alone one with Josh freaking Allen at QB.

It's this..... The only way to make this better is to cut the head off the snake. McDermott has hired a staff of yes men and clipboard holders on purpose so he will never be challenged. It's his defensive scheme and it's his dream to run the ball, manage the clock, and win the game 24-20 every week. He has no desire to have his offense just go out and hang 40 week in and week out because he knows his defense will have to be on the field more and that unit gets embarrassed more times than not so that's why he wants a ball controlled offense. We have to face it. WE ARE STUCK WITH MCDERMOTT. Pegula won't fire a GM of his hockey team that has been out of the playoffs for 15 years. If he won't do that, he isn't going to fire a football coach that makes the playoffs and wins division titles even though that's his ceiling. He isn't going to fire him with the track record he has, going into a new stadium. Just never happening no matter how much it should.

That was a crap show from the moment that Prater missed the XP. And despite that, we still should have won the freaking game. The coaches got their tails kicked tonight. The offensive line got their tails kicked tonight. And because Brady had no answers, we lost. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK UP A YARD AND THEN TAKE 4 SHOTS AT THE END ZONE!!!!! Why aren't you doing that? It's basic game management and Brady acts like he's never seen football before!!!! Every freaking pass play is virtually the same. Run shallow mesh and hope that someone pops open. They did it all night. The Texans have 8-9 guys within 10 yards of the LOS and we are running mesh underneath them all night. Not 1 shot down the field. Not one....... You aren't going to win games when the defense knows you are not going to throw the ball over 15 yards in the air and we never take a deep shot. You have to take deep shots, even if they aren't completed to back the defense off! We never do it. Brady is out of his league and Allen's comment to Trubisky even shows that Allen is out on Brady. If nobody believes in you, nobody is going to play for you and that is where we are with Brady. He should be done this weekend. He won't be, but he should be. As bad as the defense was in the first half, they gave the offense several chances to win the game and Brady couldn't change or find an answer. This team is in serious trouble right now.

Look.....Brady, outside of that fluke 4th down call, blew that. You had 3rd and 1...... YOU HAVE TO GET THE 1ST DOWN!!!! That is is only priority. Get the 1st down and then take 4 shots at the end zone. Just no clue on how to manage a game.

Because of the illegal pick. Wouldn't have mattered.

COME ON.......... You can't be serious with that........ Whelp....going to be a long 10 days....

Every lineman beaten like a drum. Have to hope for a PI.......