Your "ashamed" stuff is nonsense. Only getting out nonsensed by your stuff about Talley, Kelly, etc.
Here's my deal with Thurman. He comes out and pronounces to everybody that he is an alchoholic - rehab, AA, the whole 9 yards. He gave a speech out of the blue to the Sun Bowl teams about this. I know people who were at corporate team bonding things with him as the speaker, when apropos to nothing, he talks about how evil drinking is. (They joked about moving their wine glasses away feigning abhorment).
The 11th Tradition of AA starts out with this: Tradition 11
Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.
Our relations with the general public should be characterized by personal anonymity.
So, Thurman breaks that tradition - and then goes and does the very thing the tradition was mainly put in for. So, that then people don't say - ah, see it doesn't work. Look at Thurman drinking up - owning a bar, drinking a wine show, talking about how much he loves certain beers.
Now, it's never talked about - or explained why he went back to drinking..........But, I saw people comment on Facebook to the Buffalo News story things like "Yeah, it's got nothing to do with you being an alcoholic, right, Thurman?" And, then a professional replying as to exactly how alcoholism brings about this type of brain damage.
It's like when Kent Hull died by drinking himself to death - yet, not one word mentions that. It might have helped people who saw him drinking like crazy at Ilio's and other places to know that these are the consequences to doing that.
I love the Bills of that era. It doesn't mean that I'm not going to call bull **** on certain things.