GunnerBill

I'm trying to think of a single NFL Quarterback who was great with an elite receiver, lost that receiver and immediately regressed. I'm struggling. We heard it with Mahomes - Hill. I remember it with Watson - Hopkins as well and Watson had a career year without him (albeit other factors then did torpedo him). Rodgers regressed his last year in Green Bay without Adams but that was 'cos he'd checked out and wasn't interested in getting on the same page with the talented new guys when he could sulk and throw to a stiff like Alan Lazard instead. Sure - elite receivers can elevate Quarterbacks but they don't make them.

Maybe he has finally mastered in year 8 or whatever.... but he has been significantly worse than the median at what is a pretty straightforward skill.

Well all I know is there were at LEAST 3 his last year here and at least 3 when he was holding for Crosby in Green Bay. I agree it is an overrated skill and should be easy to learn. But Bojo sure managed to make it look hard.

Romo and Bojorquez.....

No team makes me press scroll quite like the Seahawks.

I completely disagree. The predominant issue is that we have spent too much on too little production in FA and despite Beane having an overall decent draft record he hasn't found elite players beyond Josh and in big moments it is the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os that win football games.

Yea checked it is 13. That has happened twice. Most recently as you say 2022. When 6 went is Rd 1 and 7 in Rd 2. If a bookie would offer me a market on it I'd actually put money on more than 13 off the board by the end of the 2nd round.

I thought 13 was the record in the for the first 2 rounds, is it 14?

Yea you are left with two 3Ts who won't get on the field a ton. Or a safety (I have Bullock here not Kichens but even after him there is a run of guys in that early 3rd round territory that could make sense - Hicks, Bishop, Taylor-Demerson). Or an edge who is more a base end than a pass rusher. Or a corner who might not be a starter in 2024 who you are drafting for 2025. Or a guard which I could live with but again question how much of a dial mover it is. I think #60 is a tough spot for the Bills. Much more so than #28.

Yea he didn't run well. I think he is a zone guy only. He could play outside IMO. But agree he also projects well inside because his agility measurements were excellent.

Yes

I think he would certainly compete to start in 24. I am not as high on Douglas as a lot of people. But even if he doesn't ultimately win a job in 24 he is sufficiently clear by my grading that I would just take him. When you have a talented guy sticking out who plays a premium position you select them and work it out later.

Nope. One of the most overrated players in the league.

I have voted Lassiter. I actually thought he'd gone. He is the best player left on the board IMO and I think the Bills corner situation is less settled than others. Douglas will be gone after 2024, I am out on Elam ever translating to our scheme. So when a corner is sticking out on the board like Lassiter is here he has to be the pick IMO. I'd go Fiske over Jenkins as my 2nd choice. Think he is a better fit for what we do. So if this becomes a 2 horse race later he is where I will re-allocate my vote. I'm lower than most on Kinchens. I think he is a sub par athlete to spend a 2nd round pick on. Bullock from USC is my next best at safety, but Lassiter, Fiske and Jenkins are all above him on my board anyway so I'd not be considering him in this scenario.

I don't think it is completely beyond comprehension that 15 WRs are gone before #60. 13 in the first two rounds is the record. I think that record goes this year. Whether it is exactly that list is a fairer question. I disagree with you on Legette I think he is gone by #45 or so. But there are 2 or 3 in that list that could go later. But also 2 or 3 who haven't gone here who could go.

It looks a decent list (I'd actually missed that Lassiter was still there which means I had 13 Rd 2 grades left when I said I had 12). I think Christian Haynes, IOL, is the highest ranked guy I have who isn't on your list and TJ Tampa at corner is probably the other one I'm slightly surprised not to see. At running back Benson and Wright are my RBs 2 and 3 after Brooks who has gone. Corum and Lynch are then 4 and 5 for me. And we know Benson has been in for a visit so he might be a name worth adding if not too late!

I disagree there. I think personnel, not coaching is the bigger contributor.

No I think we will win the AFCE and make the playoffs too. But when we ask why haven't we made that final step and won a Championship that set of moves in 2022 looms large IMO.

They have said Beane has authority over personnel and both he and McDermott report to Pegula. That is public and on the record. No mystery about it. Fans speculate about who has more power in the relationship and I agree it is McDermott but also when you speak to people who have been in that building including one at a high level what they say is the same as the public line - Beane runs personnel and he makes those decisions.

It isn't a dig at Beane overall. But they blew that 2022 offseason. There is no question. Yes he found some good contributors in the draft but equally - running back, linebacker and slot receiver are what some might call low hanging fruit. It was a bad offseason. No way around it.

For all that money spent he got half a season out of Von (okay unlucky) and good production out of Jones. But that is a LOT of dollars down the drain. The right moves that summer we overtook KC. Unfortunately the moves we made were not what was required and wasted our last bit of cap flex in that first window.

Some of us did not like the 2022 offseason at the time and it has proven to be pretty much an unmitigated disaster: Free Agent signings: Jordan Phillips - $5m Tim Settle - $9m Daquan Jones - $14m Von Miller - $120m Roger Saffold - $6.25m Ryan Bates - $17m OJ Howard - $3.5m Jameson Crowder - $2m Extension: Stefon Diggs - $96m First round pick: Kaiir Elam I know he had some decent success with some of his later picks - Cook, Bernard, Benford - but it is by any standards a bit of a disaster of an offseason.

5th rounder. All hussle no burst and limited technical refinement. My next two after the 3 listed are Jonah Elliss (who I think is also ideally a 3-4 OLB) and Austin Booker (who probably is more a 4-3 fit). Jenkins would be that Q Jefferson type they kept trying to find. I think he can play base end in a 4-3 in some big packages if you need him to or as your 2nd 3T. I think he'd be very good as a end in a 3-4. If I hadn't gone Newton for the Rams at #19 I'd have drafted Jenkins in round 2.

Trice is similar to the AJE we drafted in that he is just a big powerful bull rusher. My worry with all 3 of those edge guys if we are talking purely Bills fits is I think they might all ideally project better as 3-4 outside linebackers. I have said before and I will repeat here if the Bills don't get one of the top 3 or 4 (depending how you feel on Chop) guys in round 1 (and I think now we are DEFINITELY going WR) then I'd pass on edge in this class until they get into day 3 shot in the dark territory. When there are a few guys worth a punt on. It is not a deep edge group.

He is a bona fide nutcase.