GunnerBill

I started this round with 4 potential targets. I am 8 picks away and all 4 are still there. Starting to get fidgety.

Before my time, but that wasn't just a QB losing his elite WR was it? It was a QB moving from a great team to a less great one.

Don't worry. You got the better guy.

Yea makes sense. Booker is the opposite of a lot of the rushers we were talking about before... I think Trice, Braswell etc are best suited in 3-4s. I thinkn Booker needs to play in a 4-3 and so the Dan Quinn scheme works for him. That is how it is going to be. The first two rounds will be WR and OT heavy.

Yea I can see him being a "surprise" first rounder. A bit like when Green Bay took your guy Quay in the first a couple of years back. Wasn't a bad prospect by any meana but wasn't a first round talent and reaching, even if only a bit, on a prospect at a non-premium position in round 1 is always a head scratcher.

For sure the responsibilities are interwoven. No question. The pair are in lock step and should be judged as a regime rather than as individuals.

Oh I am not suggesting the Bills rotated less (save for Ed who played at 70%) just that others are now rotating much more as a matter of course. The days of it being a novel strategy or unusual to rotate 7-8 guys through up front are behind us IMO.

I crunched the numbers on their rotation earlier in the offseason. While 7 years ago they werw ahead of the league that gap has all but disappeared. The top 8 or 9 teams in the league last year with the exception of KC (who had 3 of of their starters around 70%+) were right in the same spot as the Bills when you worked it all out.

If, as looks likely, the Cardinals are sticking with a 3-4 defense (slightly odd to me as Gannon ran more of a 4-3 as DC in Philly his scheme was actually very McDermott like) then I love that fit for them. I like Trice and I think he could play as a base end in a 4-3 but I think to unlock the pass rush ceiling he is best suited to a 3-4 and rushing primarily from a 2 point stance. And they definitely need pass rush help in Arizona. It was brutal last season.

Yes. He is competing for gunner and 6th receiver. No more than that.

Do you think maybe he and Beane have already talked turkey? I am kinda kidding myself to hope that Beane knows he has very little money especially until the Tre deal cash comes off the books and has said to Simmons "look come play for a contender, don't bother yourself with OTAs and mini camp, stay in shape but have a nice break - here is the deal we'd offer if someone blows that out of the water in the meantime fair enough but otherwise no need for you to do the visits circuit, we want you."

I'm trying to think of a single NFL Quarterback who was great with an elite receiver, lost that receiver and immediately regressed. I'm struggling. We heard it with Mahomes - Hill. I remember it with Watson - Hopkins as well and Watson had a career year without him (albeit other factors then did torpedo him). Rodgers regressed his last year in Green Bay without Adams but that was 'cos he'd checked out and wasn't interested in getting on the same page with the talented new guys when he could sulk and throw to a stiff like Alan Lazard instead. Sure - elite receivers can elevate Quarterbacks but they don't make them.

Maybe he has finally mastered in year 8 or whatever.... but he has been significantly worse than the median at what is a pretty straightforward skill.

Well all I know is there were at LEAST 3 his last year here and at least 3 when he was holding for Crosby in Green Bay. I agree it is an overrated skill and should be easy to learn. But Bojo sure managed to make it look hard.

Romo and Bojorquez.....

No team makes me press scroll quite like the Seahawks.

I completely disagree. The predominant issue is that we have spent too much on too little production in FA and despite Beane having an overall decent draft record he hasn't found elite players beyond Josh and in big moments it is the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os that win football games.

Yea checked it is 13. That has happened twice. Most recently as you say 2022. When 6 went is Rd 1 and 7 in Rd 2. If a bookie would offer me a market on it I'd actually put money on more than 13 off the board by the end of the 2nd round.

I thought 13 was the record in the for the first 2 rounds, is it 14?

Yea you are left with two 3Ts who won't get on the field a ton. Or a safety (I have Bullock here not Kichens but even after him there is a run of guys in that early 3rd round territory that could make sense - Hicks, Bishop, Taylor-Demerson). Or an edge who is more a base end than a pass rusher. Or a corner who might not be a starter in 2024 who you are drafting for 2025. Or a guard which I could live with but again question how much of a dial mover it is. I think #60 is a tough spot for the Bills. Much more so than #28.

Yea he didn't run well. I think he is a zone guy only. He could play outside IMO. But agree he also projects well inside because his agility measurements were excellent.

Yes

I think he would certainly compete to start in 24. I am not as high on Douglas as a lot of people. But even if he doesn't ultimately win a job in 24 he is sufficiently clear by my grading that I would just take him. When you have a talented guy sticking out who plays a premium position you select them and work it out later.

Nope. One of the most overrated players in the league.

I have voted Lassiter. I actually thought he'd gone. He is the best player left on the board IMO and I think the Bills corner situation is less settled than others. Douglas will be gone after 2024, I am out on Elam ever translating to our scheme. So when a corner is sticking out on the board like Lassiter is here he has to be the pick IMO. I'd go Fiske over Jenkins as my 2nd choice. Think he is a better fit for what we do. So if this becomes a 2 horse race later he is where I will re-allocate my vote. I'm lower than most on Kinchens. I think he is a sub par athlete to spend a 2nd round pick on. Bullock from USC is my next best at safety, but Lassiter, Fiske and Jenkins are all above him on my board anyway so I'd not be considering him in this scenario.