GunnerBill

Agree re their type at tackle. It's why I still wonder if after Edwards contract is up if they feel like Grable is ready to get on the field do you slide Dion in one? Let Grable play and show if he can be your tackle of the future but with Dion's experience next to him. I have never had any doubt Dion can play guard, he would be 32 by that point and they love his leadership. I know a lot has to happen there first but it is a possibility.

Frazier was way underrated by this fanbase. He was one of the best DCs in football while he was here and the numbers back that up.

Yea. Something is not quite adding up. And while I have no doubt Josh's trust levels with Dawson are extremely high (give he is supposed to be his best friend on the team) it feels like more than just a chemistry thing.

You're missing out.

I don't think you do if the best option you have is Nicholas Morrow who is utterly terrible. You were still taking off better players to bring on a worse one. That is EXACTLY what we did. Monken set the trap and Babich walked right into it.

And their blocking scheme was entirely designed to do that. They regularly let a Bills defensive lineman penetrate for the benefit of having a bigger bodies lineman downhill on pour backup second level guys. And then they got Babich to panic and go "big" with a 4-3 and Morrow in the game. At which point they Justice Hill'd us to death for two drives to go up 21-3. That was the critical passage in the game IMO. The Bills should have stayed patient in their nickel base.

Got herself a toy boy. We've all been there.

Oliver has had his worst season since his 2nd year this year, that is true. But he was not #1 problem vs the Ravens. That was the 2nd level - linebackers and nickel. The Ravens designed their entire gameplan to attack that part of the defense and never came off it.

We are 6th in scoring defense. But point stands.

When was the last time a player intentionally went to injure a Quarterback? It almost never happens. I think 3 was too light. I'd have banned him for the rest of this season.

Better fundamentals, especially up front. Daquan Jones has struggled this year, Ed has been really inconsistent, their backup DTs are not really true run stuffers (by choice) and other than Groot our only defensive end who really specialises in playing the run is Duane Smoot who has been injured. That is the only route for the Bills. They need to play better up front because they don't and won't scheme to take the run away. That isn't how they believe in playing defense. They want you to run where your margin for error is smaller.

What still interests me on Knox vs Kincaid is how differently they are used. When Knox is in they use him down the field. When Kincaid is in they use him around the line. It's stark. Knox's average yards per target before catch is 10.4; whereas Kincaid's is 4.3 There is obviously something they prefer in Knox's ability down the field and it helps our offense IMO to have a tight end they think can threaten deeper. It's a worry to me if they still have no confidence in Kincaid to do that. I thought Brady had figured it out a bit late last year, but nope, back to everything short and RAC chances in 2024. The numbers back you up.

No but them getting hit sliding to a flag being thrown that happens most weeks.

He sucks. Bad person. Bang average football player.

100%. We see QBs take hits sliding every week. This isn't a debate every week because most of those are cases where the defender clearly has no intent to injure or where at worst that is unclear. This is an exception. This is not like every other case we see most weeks.

Jameis just cost me a fantasy matchup. FFS. About the only thing that could beat me was defensive scores by the Broncos.

It was the old Parcells rule. EDIT: literally as soon as I posted that Troy said it. Stop copying my homework Troy.

I get that. But you are still conflating pre-meditation with intention. They are not the same.

Of course. But this isn't just another example of where that happened. This is not one from the bottle. It is an outlier.

But he wasn't taking a piss poor angle. As @Rochesterfan has said. He had a perfectly reasonable angle to enable him to make a play. He adjusts his angle so that he can ensure the hit is more vicious. You are giving way too much benefit of the doubt because you don't want to think a player would behave that way. But he absolutely did. He intended to hurt Trevor Lawrence. He should (and I think will) face the full force of NFL discipline.

It doesn't boil down to that. It boils down to the moment he starting adjusting his attack angle to Lawrence does he think "I'm gonna hurt him here" and he absolutely does. Or else why adjust your angle, lead with the forearm and launch at the contact point?

I'm sorry if that us your bar for intent you are misunderstanding the word. You do not need the level of pre-determination that you are talking about to have intent. He doesn't need to have intended to hurt Lawrence before the game for that hit to be intentional. That is an entirely spurious argument. Yep. I am watching the exact same thing you are. Not sure what anyone arguing otherwise is watching. The decision to change angle, the decision to raise and lead with the forearm and the decision to launch towards the QB are all intentional decisions. Decisions he made with the intention to hurt Lawrence.

Turned around and tucked it.

That is a fumble. He tucks it away. That is a football move.

It was a stupid comment. I actually don't think Collinsworth and Tirico were very good last night. But all things considered they are still the best of the big five booths for me. And so to contradict @Simon's statement one of the things I look forward to the most when I tune into SNF is the quality of the announcing. I find at least one half of all the other A teams insufferable.