GunnerBill

I think he is a 5th round prospect. I would break my tv if the Bills draft him anywhere. But as much as I don't want it to happen I fear it is very much in play. He is their type, they have had him in the building.... but it would be a wasted pick. I think he is "worried" but I think he knows he doesn't have many options for addressing it. They are going to have to reach on a guy in this class, hit gold in late FA (a bit like last year I suppose) or ride with what they have.

Wilson, three years into his NFL career has gone from #2 pick to 7th round value. If the Bears had traded Trubisky three years after being the #2 pick they'd have got a better return, without doubt. Wilson has talent. He can't run an offense. Mentally he has no idea what he is doing. Trubisky isn't super talented but you don't put up the numbers he has without understanding NFL offense. I wouldn't want either as my starter either. But Mitch Trubisky is fine as a backup. And he is a considerable upgrade on what the Bills had last year.

They are not allowed by league rule to observe their players working out 6 weeks ago. I think they and their doctors have spoken to Von and believe there is a chance he can get back. But it isn't based on any full physical assessment they have carried out. Because between locker clean out day and the start of phase 1 they are not allowed to do that. My theory is he is washed. I don't think Beane agrees but I think that is based on a hope and an optimism rather than anything more substantial than that.

So what do you think he will do? Beyond your "he has seen Von in practice and is happy" which as I say cannot be true because they are one week into phase 1 of the offseason, what is your theory?

I think Groot will start left end and Von and AJE will end us time sharing RE. That is less than ideal. I agree. But there is no obvious route to improve unless they strike lucky on a dust settles guy in June or July willing to take a 1 year prove it deal.

Kyle choking in a Superbowl? Plus ça change.

This is ludicrous.

Well that is what they are doing. They can't be basing it off anything else other than educated guesses by the medics. At most they have seen 1 week of stretching where no football moves are allowed. They can't be basing decisions on that.

The Dolphins are overrated again. They lost 2/3s of their starting defense, the DC who was supposed to improve them and pieces on their offensive line. They are not a top 10 team. They will be at best at a 1 and done playoff team again. Other than that I don't find anyone ranked above the Bills to be ridiculous. I think the Eagles are too high but both they and the Bills are "good" teams whose window is less open than in previous seasons IMO. I'd have them ranked 8 and 9 wouldn't quibble which way round you put them.

AJE will out sack Von this year. I am absolutely certain of that. What have they seen of Von yet? Basically nothing. A few days of stretching. They are gambling on Von being back. I understand why. They don't have free agency dollars and beyond the top 3 (or 4 depending how you feel about Chop) its a weak draft at that spot. Von rebounding is their best hope. But its a wing and a prayer IMO.

I don't think they have a shot to get a starting edge this year in the draft unless one of the top 3 and maybe Chop falls in round 1. My three round 2 grades are all 3-4 OLBs. I wouldn't force it. If I have to live with a timeshare of a washed Von and AJE for a year then so be it. You can't make someone the answer just by overdrafting them.

It is a long developed history going back to Carolina though that they like long arms. Again Beane's drafting preferences are very Carolina. 34 inch plus arms are definitely a preferred trait for their edge guys. Not saying they just pick guys on arm length but it IS a singificant factor in the edge guys they like IMO. I really hope they don't draft Kneeland. I didn't like the Basham pick and I'd like this even less. But I do think they likely think he is an option at #60.

I don't see any pass rush ability at all. I have no idea how he rushes the passer at the next level. He isn't a bull rusher. He doesn't have elite get off. He doesn't have elite bend. He doesn't have great hand usage. If he hits I'll hold my hands up but he is like a worse version of Boogie Basham (who DJ had #54 in 2021) IMO.

Yea I think Von is done.

Yea Will McClay there is excellent. He is the GM in all but name

Yep. Me too. Only without the athletic ceiling or decent level college production.

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He's had a great process and it is fair the 3rd down stat. I think he reminds me a bit of Joe Flacco in that I think strong running game and then ask him to make the odd throw off of play action or third and medium and he can have some success. I don't think he has Flacco's arm and it is hard to know whether he has the ability Joe had to hit to the big play when it was needed because he was just not asked to. Maybe he can. But it isn't there on tape.

It is probably Tepper telling him - he is a clown that fella. I don't think Legette was necessarily angling for anything there although saying they are taking him at 33 wasn't the smartest move.

Nope I don't. I am still finishing him up (want to try and post my QB thread tonight all being well) but I have a 3rd round grade. But there are so many team with NOTHING at Quarterback. Of the six teams most commonly mocked to take a guy: Chicago, Washington, New England, Minnesota, Denver, Vegas..... the two best Quarterbacks currently on those rosters are Brissett and Minshew. They are the only two teams of those six (Pats and Raiders) who you can even make the argument they have a bridge guy. So teams are going to reach. Because they have zero alternative.

I hate it. I have a 5th round grade on Kneeland. He sucks.

I love stump the truck. There might only be about a dozen people still watching the draft by the dog days of round 7..... but I love it. You stumped me anyway. Not a guy I'd ever heard of.

The two issues I see with the Giants trade up option is: 1. What do the Cardinals get in return? You are asking them to give up MJH. If they are getting two or even three ones from Minnesota (even sending a day 2 pick back) that and the chance to still get back up with Atlanta for the 3rd of these receivers given that Joe Alt is a lock to go either at #5 or #7 is attractive. If it is give up MJH for Nabers or Odunze and say swap a third for a second round pick (I'd imagine something like Cards get #6 and #47 and NYG get #4 and #90) is that tempting enough? Depends what difference in grades they have between Harrison and the other two I suppose. 2. If you are trading back with the Giants you might wanna be absolutely convinced they are not going to just take the receiver you would have taken there. I dunno. It would be risky for me. Again it depends do AZ like Harrison a lot more? What about the other two, do they have those close together? But I have heard the Giants are in the QB market if the right guy is there from the very start of the process so I totally buy their desire to go up.

100% front office. The NFL is ultimately about building the right team within the confines of the salary cap / FA etc. I think the different team building strategies are now more fascinating than the different offensive and defensive strategies where to be honest innovation is harder to see and every scheme has been done before.

Can we call one of thimose underneath pop passes?