GunnerBill

Not at its best it wasn't.

Strong, strong, strong disagree.

Tremaine never made any tackles. Your feeling in this instance is correct.

Beane said in his presser his calculation is we are down to only about $4m over, but there is more work to do.

For you to believe that you also have to believe that he has been dogging it a bit at times because his team is bad IMO. Because while his numbers are definitely hurt by his QB play there were times this season when he was lazy, didn't run his route with enough urgency to be in the right spot and dropped balls he should have caught if there was any contact at all from defenders. But he unquestionably is right to ask for top 5 money. Super talented.

If you are giving longevity points, sure. But Mario's first 3 years in Buffalo were better than Schobel's best three years. If the question is who was the best rusher at their peak after Bruce, it's Mario Williams. Peak Mario was the best Bills player of the drought era (talking pure drought so excluding those who played on the last playoff team pre-drought and then into the drought).

He is arguably top 5 talent wise. The production doesn't yet match, but that's the market. If you are a top 10 guy you want top 5 money when your time comes because you will slide down quickly after as others do their deals.

Mario. Not close.

He counts as $17m on the cap in 2025 and $18m in 2026 but not a penny of that is guaranteed so from a leverage position in negotiations the team has it all really. The deal to be done in my view is "we will rework the deal give you the $35m you currently have unguaranteed over the next two years but guarantee most of it, pay you $20-25m up front and spread the cap hit for us over 4 years with two of them void and you still hit FA again age 30 with a chance to get one more decent payday." No negotiation in the NFL is ever "easy" but this one is way closer to the easy end than most.

Yea. I think he will get a shorter deal but a big one all the same. Certainly upward of $20m. Whether a blockbuster trade was ever realistically possible is a different question. But it is, in my view, without question less likely after this deal if it was ever possible to start with.

We got a 5th back though didn't we? It was late third value at best. Plus they may well want Alexander off the books. I don't think he'd cost a 2nd straight up. I think you could definitely get something back.

The world has moved on. They are rare in the extreme now. The 340 pounders who can still play in this league barely exist.

A tad light? He is 330lbs! You don't get many dlinemen heavier than that capable of playing in the modern NFL

I have also been consistently right.

Exactly. Cap is ever increasing. $15m now isn't $15m three and a half years ago. And YES Sutton will get more than $20m AAV on his next deal. My guess is he will be closer to 25 than 20.

Yea I did think of the Floyd comparison. If he was coming as a FA on a reasonable deal I wouldn't hate it. Trading for him would have to be a day 3 pick.

The way I see this offseason I have 5 needs, 3 of them are premium position needs: outside corner, boundary receiver, edge rusher. I then have needs at DT and Safety in non-priority spots. I'd love to use my first 3 picks to attack those 3 premium positions but while I think there is a chance you can get an edge at the end of round two who has a chance to start... I am more sceptical you can do that at receiver or boundary corner. So if there is a chance to flip one of those picks for a proven vet who fits the scheme and makes cap sense (or can be easily made to) I am interested. If it is going on Edge it has to be an elite player. If I can get Myles Garrett I am in. He is elite level elite otherwise that is the spot I feel best about drafting.

Yea but zero of that is guaranteed. Alexander has no leverage other than to totally sit out. You check he isn't going to do that first, which the Bills have been good at with trades under this regime and if he is you pull the plug. Otherwise... you want a corner who is a really good fit for zone but can do some man stuff and is capable of elite level play? Here he is. Kick the can. Give him a big signing bonus, 2 years, spread the money out over four, kick the can and legit have one of the best starting corner duos in football in 2025 and 2026. He is an all in move but in terms of ones that make sense..... he is near the top of that list for me. It is also the one thing we have never tried in all these battles with KC. Taking them on with high end corners on both sides of the field. It would be ballsy, but if you want a corner capable of starting early out of this draft I think you have to spend #30 on it. And I'd prefer to draft to the strength of the class - Dline, or if one of the receivers slides take a shot.

He'd only be bringing the salary bit with him and zero guaranteed money though. In terms of doing something with the deal the Bills would have the leverage. You just gotta check he isn't gonna Hassan Reddick it before you press go.

I'm surprised he is only 28. Depends on price. But I'd consider moving one of our late 2nds for him if we could get a mid round pick back. Say send #62, swap #131 for #123 and get #160. That makes him worth high round 3 overall value. That feels fair.

In fairness the Eagles D sucked last year. Now I know they got a new DC too, and a significant upgrade at that, but they got 3 major impact players - Mitchell, DeJean and Baun and Nolan Smith took a critical step forward. Hitting big style on 2 draft picks, a FA and having a former first rounder make a leap is not easy... but Philly showed it is possible.

I was in on signing Rousseau until the AFCCG. Maybe he was hurt but he was DEFINITELY not going at 100% out there. And unless there was an injury we don't know about that is inexcusable in a game of that magnitude. The first Mahomes rushing TD Groot just quit on the play.

Outside backer more than a hand in the dirt DE and doesn't really move the dial for me. He is an upgrade, sure. But I wouldn't give up much for it.

Yea I also always thought it was a given that the Bills would extend him. I didn't think it was a given that extending him was a good idea but I said in multiple places if you could get him at $15m AAV then it was a good idea. And the Bills have. Details to come but I think the Bills won this deal and Khalil took a bit less for a chance to stay here and (as you rightly say Alpha) the security of a deal that pays a former 5th rounder life changing money.

Hmm. I think two things on this.... 1. Shakir's 2024 is about the median year for Courtland Sutton. Okay, at this stage that is a career year for Shakir and if it still looks that way halfway through this deal it will have been an overpay, but if he can consistently be in the 800 yard range (I think he can personally) it will look better. 2. Courtland Sutton signed his deal halfway through the 2021 season. It is three and a half years old. The salary cap has rocketed by over 50% in that period. The Broncos and Sutton are in talks currently about extending him again. It won't be for anything close to $15m, he will get way more.