GunnerBill

This. He is the brain child and the driving factor behind the international games. Obviously you are right the decision to do it is the owners' decsion. But basically it was Goodell's idea and he sees it as a big part of his legacy. And it makes the owners money so they give him the green light.

I have never understood, and will never understand, the concept of a wedding rehearsal. You don't have to remember your lines. You just repeat after the celebrant. What are you rehearsing? Walking?

Well of course. Because they didn't win. But that doesn't mean they are not remembered with a respect for what they were. They are still teams that go down in legend. Because it isn't ever only destination. It's the climb. There are teams who won Championships... in each of those sports.... less remembered than those famous teams that didn't. That's the reality.

For someone who has already determined the only thing that matters is a Championship, sure. You can create a narrative where all that matters is a Superbowl and then judge everything by that standard. But life isn't like that. It isn't all or nothing. Nor is sport despite the desire to present it as such. Sport is about moments. And the memories. The wins. And of course the Championships. But not only them. Brazil 1982. New Zealand 1995. South Africa (cricket) 1999. Minnesota 1998. Portugal 2004. New England 2007. They are all great teams.

What? They are remembered. Nobody is saying winning a title doesn't matter. But it isn't all that matters. You can be remembered without a Superbowl. That doesn't mean anyone is fine not winning one. Obviously we all want the Bills to win one. But the argument that it is all the matters is poppycock.

Schotty's Chargers Schotty's Chiefs Green's Vikings

Except ALL those teams ARE remembered. They are famous teams in NFL history. So I can't buy your argument. It is not all that matters from a historical perspective.

It is entertainment to me too. Which is why I won't apply a higher bar to it than the stuff that matters. It can. But that is different a Superbowl being "all that matters."

It's just a different type of fandom. I'm the guy who posted a thread here the day after the Dalton miracle saying "don't hate the drought". Life isn't just about the destination. It is about the journey too. Sports are the same to me.

Except everyone remembers them. Nobody is denying winning is the most important thing. It isn't the only thing that matters.

Totally disagree. I want the Bills to win a Superbowl. It isn't the "only thing that matters" to me as a fan. Enjoying watching them play matters. Enjoying wins matters. The journey matters. It's the climb. That might not be how fandom is for you.... but I am definitely not lying. It is how fandom is for me.

Those Chargers teams did win 5 division titles in a row but one of those was an 8-8 year. It was a good run. They were not as good as these Bills teams with the exception of the 2006 team which shouls have won the Superbowl.

But that's my point. You need a consesnus for someone to be the heir apparent. And if there was Roger wouldn't be able to get them out. Roger is there until the owners don't want him to be. And if they had idenfitied who was next, that person would be in the organisation.

I am saying if the guys being "pushed out" were guys the owners genuinely saw as the heir apparent they wouldn't be getting pushed out.

If they wanted that they'd have it. Wheyher Goodell wants it or not.

I saw AJE the same coming out. But I think you are slightly underselling how explosive he is now. The best bit of his game since he reshaped his physique is his explosiveness off the ball. The reason it doesn't convert to more sacks and pressures is he lacks big time bend and really doesn't have an array of pass rush moves. His technique is still that of a bull rusher with the body and first step now of a speed rusher.

But unless that younger guy is as effective as Goodell at increasing revenues it's a false economy. In the last fifteen years the league has gone from an annual revenue of $8bn to an annual revenue of $23bn. No other sports league anywhere in the world is even close. The owners are not risking that kind of growth profile to save a few million a year on a commissioner's salary.

The only point at which Goodell needs to worry about his bosses looking for fresh blood is when he stops increasing their revenues. Obviously at some point age becomes a factor. But it isn't yet. He could easily do another 4 or 5 years as long as his health remains good.

This is simply not true.

I had a prior engagement.

And yet despite all that (and I don't disagree btw) his play on the field was still a clear regression in 2024 from 2023. I understand why he got thr 2nd contract but @BillsFanForever19 is right. He shoukd have been 5th priority if the 5. He is the most replaceable and plays a non-premium position.

I am not trying to say a lot about them. I think Sanders is the best if a bad bunch.

Haha. It is always my ice breaker for corportate away days.... two truths and a lie type games... I scored a winning goal in an FA Cup tie. It's true. It was just the Extra-Preliminary round in August, 3 months before professional teams enter and 8 months before the final.

Bryce Brown's fumble and then Jamal Charles touchdown from 4th and 1 at midfield. That was the worst game for me. 2014. Win that game and Marrone almost certainly ends the drought. And the Bills were better than KC that day. Beat themselves.

No I think that is right. By midseason I think that was the view. I don't think he is either.