GunnerBill

Yea that isn't how NFL teams actually value future firsts in trade ups. They discount the value.

Yea I'd take him. And in his absence I'd trade back.

By now, I agree. I don't think you get a 9 year run (this will be year 9) as a Head Coach in the NFL without a franchise Quarterback. But I think as long as he had serviceable McDermott would have coached 5-7 years here and made the playoffs at least 3 times because he is a darn good football coach. Of course it sort of depends what the counter factual is as well which we can never know, in terms of if they hadn't taken Josh what would their move at the position have been.... that's the great unknown.

I was interested while Golden was there because I think he had a skillset not available to me later. I'm not sure I see that in anyone else.

I'd give up on them for a twice used tea bag.

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My hot take is that Sean McDermott would have taken at least 4 of the Bills drought teams to the playoffs - 2004, 2008, 2014 and 2015.

Okay so 2hrs 15 from here? Just trying to work out whether I can pick before bed ha. What I might do is send you a full write up of options 1 and 2. Then you can post for me? I know who I am taking and if he takes my guy I know who my fallback is.

@quincy hasn't been here since Wednesday evening. How long does he have? @Virgil

I no longer have any interest at all in a Bills trade up

Where I am too. The Rams is the highest I'd consider going.

I think his transitions always made him a real clunky scheme fit. He is just not quick enough to change from backpedal to close and vice versa. I think there are and were other issues too but that was the biggest one.

So was I. I was higher on Gordon even than McDuffie and while McDuffie is an outstanding player, Gordon has developed into a stud himself. I had Elam as CB7.

Actually a trade up for Golden if he makes the Rams pick costs our first fourth and our last 6th. I'd be in on that. I think in real life might cost a 4th and a 5th but by the chart a 4th and our final pick of the draft late 6th does it.

Yea my intel is the Bills were not taking McDuffie.

He is my 5th overall player, so I don't disagree at all. But the Bills are pretty resolute on their physical specifications at corner. I don't see it changing. Barron is gonna be absolutely fine outside. He is just that good. But I do think it stops him being a likely fit in the Bills D.

I love him. Don't think he is a fit for the Bills though.

The Seattle Seahawks have TRADED pick #18 to the Houston Texans. @Big Blitz is now on the clock. Houston gets #18 (900 points) Seattle gets #25 (720 points) and #79 (195 points)

@Virgil - I think I have a trade in place for #18..... do you want me to ping you over the details? Hopefully then we are ready to keep it moving once Logic has picked.

Before I go on the clock at #18 I have a few prospects similarly graded and would be willing to slide back if someone is keen to come up. @CNYfan @LEBills @Ralonzo @Doc Brown @quincy @Big Blitz @Virgil @K-No @HappyDays @NewEra @Mike in Horseheads EDIT: I would not be trading back if that dastardly @H2o didn't just nab my guy.

Okay, yea. That is him done in terms of going first two days.

Nope. Next.

I would. Then and now.

Ah yea I missed the 6th round trio....

By CBS, maybe. There is no way he is the 4th best player in the draft. And whether he is tackle or guard eventually remains TBC.