GunnerBill

Trey Lance?

We will go 5-1. Lose week 18 to the Jets in a dead rubber.

Definitely weaker than the Eagles, Lions and Ravens. They are probably the three best rosters in football right now. In my opinion weaker than the Chiefs too although I think that one is closer. Disagree on the two NFC West teams. I think they were weaker than the Niners the last few years but the Niners can kicking has run out of road. I think their roster in 2025 is weak. They still have more stars than us but they are ageing and with health questions and they have some gaping holes too. The Oline other than old man Trent is a sieve, the Dline is a huge question mark and they might have the worst starting secondary in the league on paper. As for the Rams... I'd take their pass rushers - Turner and Verse - over ours and their two starting receivers (although Davante does turn 33 during the season the wall is at best "approaching" for him). After that the only starter of theirs I'd take for the Bills is Kam Curl at safety, who I actually wanted the Bills to sign when he was a FA last spring.

Favourite? Matt Milano. Easy.

I think Philly has a top 5 WR 1 and 2. The rest of their group stinks, but I take the broad point. I disagree a tad on Hurts. I have him #5 and I think he is slightly underrated because his surrounding cast is so good. I accept after the top 4 guys there is a bit of pays your money takes your choice but the people putting Stafford there at this point are doing so on a lifetime achievement basis not what he has done the past 3 seasons. I think Herbert is the 5th most talented but Hurts is a better leader and plays better in the big moments. Maybe I'll have Daniels at #5 after 2025 if he can back up his rookie performance but I need more than a 1 year sample. I wouldn't bang the drum that he MUST be #5 but he is certainly closer to #5 than #10.

I don't think Devonta or Goedert are as good at their jobs as Hurts is at his. They are both good. Hurts is really good. AJB and Saquan are elite.

Meh. I'd take Brown and Saquan. But then Hurts before anyone other skill guy on that offense.

Sorry I thought you were saying the two Superbowls were two different Head Coaches. My bad if I misinterpreted.

Edge rush. Maybe outside receiver still depending whst DHop has left. Guard. That's it.

I think they hoped for legit starters. And got that with neither.

It's the same Head Coach. But two different OCs, both of whom parlayed it into HC jobs. I do think Hurts is underrated. #2 is rich for my blood but he is darn good. People talk about the stacked Eagles team in 2024 and that's true. But their 2023 defense was bottom 4 in the NFL and they won 11 games. You don't do that without a really good QB.

Ah I didn't say they should be fired for the picks. Don't misquote me. I thought both were overdrafted by a round or so but they were not fireable picks. I said if they knew they were going to get what they got from those two guys and still spent day 2 picks on them they should be fired. Because running backs who can put up between 600 and 800 yards are not a commodity you want to be spending day two picks on.

My word that Ravens secondary is stacked.

I didn't want any of the guys around or after Moss in that class. That is my point. Singletary is better than those other guys but not in a decisive way. He has had three starting jobs in the NFL now and lost three starting jobs. Sure Harris is out of the league (because of health reasons) and Justice Hill is more of a 3rd down back than a start but the value above replacement of Singletary against those guys is not high. If you are spending a 3rd round pick on such a low value position I would want better.... and even your own link shows there are better guys in the last decade that have been picked in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds.

Pleased to say I did not say that on Spencer Brown.

The Moss class was a shallow RB class with some high end guys but not much depth (another problem with spending a high value asset on him). But the Singletary class there are guys after him who have had some production in the league: Damien Harris, Justice Hill, Tony Pollard, Myles Gaskin our own "best 3rd down back in football" Ty Johnson. And then the next two drafts after the Moss draft... Khalil Herbert, Kenneth Gainwell, Chuba Hubbard, Rhamondre Stevenson, Isiah Pacheco, Kyren Williams, Dameon Pierce, Tyler Allgeier etc.... If you are spending a day 2 pick on a guy you better be getting me a guy who is a cut above that company. And Singletary and Moss were not and never had the skillsets to be.

They have both started. And been quickly relegated to the bench. If you are going for such low value positions in the first three rounds I expect actual starting level talents. And neither of those guys were.

If they knew what they were getting with Singletary and Moss and STILL spent day 2 picks on them that is a fireable offence.

I am. I am conflicted on Cook. I am generally in don't pay a back. But I think the things he brings - the vision and fast change of direction are perfect fits for this scheme and not super replaceable by any mid round back. If I thought we had the potential to be explosive in the pass game I wouldn't care at all and I'd say run him 'til he pukes this year then let him try FA. Bur when your passing game so much lacks explosion taking one of the best big play backs in football out of it feels somewhat risky. Hopefully the pass game is more explosive this year and we can happily move on from Cook and take the comp pick. But I can imagine a scenario where I am okay with paying him. Nah at running back their talent evaluation has just sucked aside from Cook. It is not philosophy it is bad talent evaluation. Singletary was never a third round talent. I said it at the time. Moss the same. Davis I had as a 5th they took late 4th I can kind of see the value at least but his ceiling is still a rotational #2.

Yea Cook is a good back. He isn't an elite back but he is a darn good one. I don't think any of the other backs Beane has drafted - and I include Davis in this - are starter level NFL talents. He has spent too many resources on change of pace type guys.

It probably is yes. I agree. But not by Devin freaking Singletary. He is a backup who spent 3 years here masquerading as a starter.

I watched it. No it isn't.

I went for the probably convetional; Pat; Josh; Joe; Lamar. I'd be absolutely delighted with any of the 4 for am entire season. But in the 1 crunch moment that is the order I'd take them

Singletary doesn't have the vision or change of direction of Cook. There is zero chance he makes that play. Zero.

Pats only swept twice in their dynasty. That is a staggering stat to me. I think Bills have done it once (in the Allen era). They would have done it last year too if they needed to, but that applied to the Pats a time or two as well. The finishing with a division game definitely affects how rarely teams sweep. The best team who would be capable of sweeping often doesn't need that last game.