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I that is just who he is as a character. He does seem different than their usual type, but then Ed Oliver is a little bit too in a different way.

Or has either player shown any developments on the known weaknesses they displayed in college? And my answer there is no they haven't. Is it too early to say they can't? Of course it is. But ideally you'd see more signs of progress. It's a massive offseason / pre-season for both.

Not being groomed to be anything. He is who he is and has always been. We can hope a switch goes on at some point and he becomes a different player - but it's just that - hope.

On Horton, I do like him, he is just outside my top 10.... 12 or 13 I think (11 is Felton and then 12 and 13 are Horton and the kid from Stanford but can't remember which order I have them as not got my board right in front of me). My big worry is play strength. Texas pressed him a fair bit at the line and got physical with him and they got they better of him as a result. I suppose I think he is a bit Troy Franklin in that sense. If you are looking for a field stretcher with speed outside, I think he offers that. But I think his frame is naturally wirey and I'm not sure how easy he is going to find it to build muscle and improve the play strength while retaining the explosiveness. That caps the ceiling a little bit for me. Secondary concern is he basically only ran two routes at Colorado State, but that is more a them thing than a him thing and you'd think he could pick more up with NFL coaching.

Sure, and if in either of the two cases the offense had scored and then KC had immediately responded with seconds remaining a la 13 seconds, we'd be having a different conversation. But the fact remains in the last 3 playoff games the Bills O had the ball with the clock in their favour to go and score a game winning touchdown. They are 1/3. You have to fix that as well as improve the defensive performance against KC in the post season. Because whether they are low scoring or high scoring history of the past few years tells us Bills - KC always goes down to the end. So you need whichever side of the ball it comes down to in those spots to be capable of winning the high leverage moments. And while I definitely think it is right to be more concerned about the D than the O in those situations, there are legit concerns on both sides.

It's spelt craic.... It's a Gaelic word. But yea Dublin is a cool city. Best pub city in the world IMO. It's expensive (even for someone used to London prices) but it's worth it. The Guinness is like velvet in liquid form.

Well, quite... that isn't a drop but it is certainly a ball that not only could but should have been a catch. It was probably a TD too if he caught it. It was a good call and a fine throw. Keon just has to get his head round. There was green grass for days between the split safeties if he caught it.

PFR assigns him four drops, PFF credits him with five. I get there is some subjectivity but true drops I think it is that range. But he caught 50.9% of his targets, and some of that is exactly what I said about his college film - for a guy who does not separate and therefore ends up with a lot of contested balls he is not good enough in contested catch scenarios.

He played once and I think he played the Will from memory (might have that wrong) and I think it was v the Jets.... he was not good. To be honest he was not having a great camp when he got hurt in 2023 (Dodson was ahead in the competition at the time, but played himself out of the job with pre-season struggles). He was a really pleasant surprise when the season started and he came out of the gate hot. I don't think he has quite sustained the heights of those first 8 games of 2023.... but he is still an above average starter at the spot.

Yea although in fairness JSN had a slightly disappointing rookie year too. I just think he always was and is more talented than Coleman. On the speed thing Brandon Beane says it every single year in his end of season presser. And yet other than Elam (who ended up a bust) he has never followed through by prioritising it with his picks.

I think 1T, CB and S are racing certainties because I expect Jones, Hamlin and Douglas to be gone. WR and DE however are the two biggest impact spots where we need more.

Palmer at that price is a better option than Slayton at $13-15m AAV. His numbers without Chase are excellent though. I see the Chase thing the other way. He depresses Higgins' numbers because he hogs targets. I agree. No way am I moving Benford.

Yea Mooney was the guy I wanted last spring. I value Slayton lower than him. Spotrac has him at $15.8m AAV. There is zero point zero per cent chance I am in at that number!

I like him less becaus I the ceiling is lower. Though the floor is probably higher. I dunno. Whenever I watch him play he leaves me a bit cold. I suspect he will get more than I am comfortable paying, but who knows?

Yea there was a lot of buzz, a year ahead, at the 2017 Combine about the 2018 Quarterback class and particularly Allen and Darnold. He'd have been a first round pick in '17.

I think he meant as in he decided to go back to school in 2017. At one point he was rumoured to be considering declaring for the 2017 draft instead.

I've mentioned him in this thread..... and he played primarily wide this season (67%). He is small but he is not primarily a slot guy. For me it is Hollywood or take a punt on Atwell or Dyami Brown.

Spencer was a top 3 right tackle in 2024. I need to see him back up that level of play before I call him overall top 5 but if you are just going on the past season he was unquestionably top 5 at his spot. And you are right on Dion, in terms of consistency, reliability and longevity his resume definitely belongs in the top 5. Then it is the age - old question about how you value that against the guys who might have a higher ceiling in their best years but have not been as consistent, or are always hurt - I'm thinking the likes of Ronnie Stanley, Terron Armstead, Rashawn Slater etc, or guys who've been in the league less time, or played left tackle less time like Tristan Wifrs or Charles Cross.

Yep. It came down to a few plays, sure. We weren't good enough to make them.

Yep. The answer is not this dynamic kick off gimmick. The NFL needs to pick a side between safety and entertainment on kick offs. This middling it does not work.

You can't blame them, in terms of being the main reason for the defeat, no. But when you have an elite QB and two years in a row that happens you have to consider as part of your fix why that is. Simply shrugging and saying "defense" is misguided. The Bills have to find a way to win the high leverage moments vs Kansas City in the playoffs. That is mainly, but not exclusively, on defense. They have made those plays in their regular season wins (particularly the last 3) but they just haven't been able to in the playoffs.

Yea it is a fair point on 2021. I suppose I kind of feel like that was a team that just underperformed itself most of the year, partly cos the oline really struggled. When that clicked down the stretch the team improved to its potential. The thing about 2022 is the first 7 or 8 weeks the Bills were without question the best team in football.

I think you might be onto something there. With Tre, Po, Micah and Taron you could be limited but fundamentally sound and be a serviceable 5th wheel. With no safeties to help.... it is definitely harder.

Yea for sure. I think Lincoln Riley was good for him but that only mattered because of who Hurts is. His work ethic is incredibly impressive.

I think the 2021 and 2022 teams were better than the 2024 team.