GunnerBill

Just checked. You are reading it right. Based on the PFF system that suggests he is pretty much worse than playing without a right guard. 😆 Yep. The Vladiator is actually a pretty good comp. Moves a bit better than him but same mess of a technique.

Mainly from his time on the Steelers. He started for Pittsburgh on that utterly dreadful line they had a couple of years ago. The one that caused them to go and draft OL in the first twice in a row and once in the second to totally retool it. I haven't really focused on him in Houston but I doubt he has got better. He can't anchor, his feet are a sloppy mess and if a defender gets into him it is down over he is beat. I watch about 10 NFL games most weeks so I like to think I have a pretty good working knowledge of the league. Some teams more than others. Steelers got a ton of prime time games when he was there, we played them that year in Buffalo, and they get shown a lot on UK tv in the normal Sunday slots cos they have a decent fanbase here.

He could have two purposes. Dropping the ball and running into his blockers.

That is Kenyon. We signed Kendick. They had two dreadful Greens at guard.... 😂

He is dreadful.

Thanks on the draft pick thing. I saw Pelissero reported it the other way, but that tweet seems to have disappeared so he must have got it wrong and corrected. That is interesting on Gordon. And I don't disagree character likely a big factor. But interesting that the Chiefs also had him ahead of Gordon. Though I suppose you can argue maybe that makes more sense for them scheme wise.

Tre was hurt wasn't he? He didn't end up playing until week 8 or week 9? So I do think it's a bit different. But I also do think corner is the most likely pick at #30.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was an offer. I know for a fact there were conversations this time last year before the contract adjustment and the Bills and his reps were miles apart.

Makes sense. He knows the D and can start without being a liability. Hope it means they won't force it in the draft now (which is what happened the Elam year) but they still need to find a way of upgrading and I still would price corner as the favourite for #30.

But that doesn't explain Elam over Gordon either.... Gordon had the higher RAS!

Yea some of it is scheme obviously. Not sure all those linebackers are scheme fits here but then Joseph really wasn't naturally their type either. If I remember right he had the lower RAS score in the entire draft. And they spent a 5th on him. I remember on that year's draft video McDermott who has clearly never heard of him asking Joe Schoen "what does he do?" And Schoen being like an excited puppy "he plays inside, he plays outside, he can blitz, core special teams". We found out in time what he could do. Sweet FA. What makes Gordon v Elam even more confusing to me was Gordon was clearly the better scheme fit on tape. I'd genuinely love Brandon Beane to sit me down and walk me through what they saw and why. If it was Kaiir vs nobody I see the ceiling potential of Kaiir and why that is inticing. But if it is Kaiir vs an athletic freak who fits your scheme and has better tape I don't see it. Maybe Gordon had a medical or an off field that never came out? That might be it I suppose.

Quay Walker is respectable in that he has started a lot of games. I fully expect Green Bay not to pick up his 5th year option though. He has been a tick better than replacement level. Sure that is still better than Elam but if you spend a 1st on an off ball linebacker that guy better be a star or else that's a bad allocation of assets. Similar when you take a center tbh, but as ever it seems.... the Ravens made the right gamble. My bigger complaint was always I had 7 corners that year with 1st or 2nd round grades (Elam was #7). Sauce, Stingley and McDuffie had gone. That meant four were left. Let's leave out Andrew Booth for now because the story at the time was the medicals were horrific and he has barely been healthy and not looked healthy even when he has. So maybe it was down to 6 because the Bills are pretty risk averse on that stuff he was likely off the board. That means even if the Bills were adament it had to be corner there were three guys left: in order of my ranking - Kyler Gordon; Roger McCreary; Kaiir Elam. Gordon has developed into a high end corner. McCreary (who I never saw as a scheme fit for the Bills... but then likewise Elam) started as an outside corner for a year and a half in Tennessee where he was average and then was moved inside and is a good slot. And Kaiir.... well we know how that went. I'd love to know what the Bills thought of Gordon. To me he was a much simpler scheme fit and had much better tape. He had a higher RAS score as well from memory. Love to know what put them off him. And they weren't the only ones btw. The Athletic have run a piece since on the process of the Chiefs trade up for McDuffie and they had two first round graded corners left at that point..... McDuffie and Elam. What were the pros seeing that I wasn't in the Gordon / Elam comparison? And this isn't an effort to point out I was proved right. It is a genuine question to try and better understand what pro teams are looking for in those evaluations.

When I actually see the value it is a next year 7th and moving up literally 4 spots this year from 1st pick in round 6 into the comp pick zone of round 5. That is more what I thought Kaiir's value was. It's not though. We move from the Browns pick (1st pick of round 6) into the round 5 comp zone for Dallas's comp pick. It is four spots.

I'd rather sign a bag of used condoms.

Meh.

Not quite true he did have a run as interim in-season in Carolina between Hurney (first time) and Gettleman. But your point stands. Every GM is a first time GM at some point.

Now hired as the defensive line coach of his LSU tigers. Congrats Kyle.

Anyone but Douglas pls.

5th and a future 7th is definitely higher than my expectation. It's funny I think it might have been you (apologies if not) I was talking to last offseason about Kaiir and saying there are not a ton of teams where his skillset looks a good fit but Dallas who just ask their corners to attack rather than read and react might be one. Sort of makes sense. Although I am considerably more convinced it is about Elam not being good as much as not being a fit this spring than I was last. The compensation is a definite win for the Bills.

Honestly everything the Bills have done since they moved off Star should tell you fans might want a big tub of goo 350lbs space eater but the organisation doesn't. It wants guys even at 1T who can make plays in the backfield.

I don't know a ton about him except that he loves to run and hit on special teams. I think he is a free safety at least which was a need. Mainly a backup for the Commanders?

I like him. But I don't love the idea of a 1T at #30. And you'd have to take him there IMO.

He has played plenty of 1T. I'd be amazed and disappointed if the Bills have given him that deal to back up Ed Oliver. As I said above... I don't think the Bills want a big fat guy at 1T. That is not the type they have gone for at any stage since they binned Star. They have always gone for 1Ts who can anchor and play run but will also get upfield and penetrate.

Yea I talked about Biggers as an option the other day too. As for worries about size... honestly, everything the Bills have done since they cut Star tells me they are not after a big tub of lard type run stuffer.

Surely they have signed Ogunjobi to start?