GunnerBill

In Wizard of Oz the lion was cowardly. But then King Richard was a "lionheart" because he was brave. I won't be constrained by people's nonsensical understandings.

I mean most of those are Americanisms. I can't explain why you lot can't speak properly.

Then why is alligator arms not short hand for short armed receivers? His arms are short. Like an alligators. He is alligator armed. That's it.

Alligators have short arms. I don't know why. Alligators have short arms. That is what Shakir has. Short arms. Like an alligator. I have never seen an alligator drop a football.

Definitely think they need to be strong at home. I don't think they are yet a team that can go on the road and beat good sides consistently. But when I look at their premium positions: QB, tick; LT, tick; DE, x2 tick; CB1, tick. Have they got a true #1 WR? Depends if Stef can bounce back, but even if not Collins, Diggs, Dell is like having three #2s. That is what gives me confidence in them. I told people before last season they'd be good when people had them drafting top 3 again. They have good players in the premium spots.

No my dog had the reach advantage.

I think Houston are made of stronger stuff than Jax were though. I know Pederson has won a Superbowl but I'd take Demeco Ryans over him as well. I think it is early for them as Superbowl contenders but they have a 2020 Bills feel to me. I could see them getting to an AFCCG if the playoffs fall right for them and then getting blown out by one of the big experienced teams.

Shakir.

What if WR6 is just a better player than S2 or DE3 though?

He talks about speed every January. Then drafts chain movers when it gets to April. Odd.

But haven't you heard? Wide receivers are ten a penny and some sort of money ball gumpf about "yard accumulators" means this is actually the Bills out-smarting the league. If only the other teams were smart enough to go with a wing, a prayer, and an alligator armed slot receiver!!

Josh and Diggs fell out over a year before he played is last game here. There was definitely a point of "gone as far as this relationship can." But the point @Beck Water made is still true. Trading Diggs was not, primarily, a cap move. It was a culture / relationship re-set.

Isn't that exactly what is happening here? Butker says being gay is a "deadly sin" which is hilarious as much as it's wrong. I call him a bigoted idiot. The world moves on. We get back to watching him make every clutch kick he ever attempts against the Bills.

The reality is as long as Beane is GM they will not prioritise wide receivers in the draft. They never did when he was Dir. Football Ops or Ass. GM in Carolina when he was learning his trade and they never have here. All things equal he will ALWAYS prioritise defensive front 7.

My actual preference would have been to take some shots on guys during the 4 years you had Diggs and Davis (beyond two 5th rounders) so that you don't end up with the severity of need we had going into this draft.

I think there is merit in the "take shots" approach. As you say that has been the Green Bay way, it has been the Pittsburgh way too as @FireChans referred to above. Partly why to me it was somewhat negligent in the 4 years we had Diggs and Davis together for our highest draft investment to be two 5th rounders (Shakir and Shorter).

Not a serial groper. That wasn't my accusation. Just that the rumour mill is linking him to experiences at college that he would now consider "sin". And not just "sin". "Deadly Sin". Well I've sinned lots in that case and it hasn't been deadly yet.

You want my full body count?

Carter won't play every down right away, no. I personally am not convinced he will ever be an every down DT which is why I wasn't particularly a fan of the pick, but some others do like him more than me. But three receivers with the first three picks would have been one too many IMO in terms of guys you want to be contributors early. There just isn't the time and space to get three guys like that up to speed. I think two in the first 3 or 4 rounds and potentially one of their late fliers on gadget guy type who could offer some return value potentially was the sweet spot.

He played a little something. In my experience it is always the religious straight ones who are really into it too.......

The Butker thread yesterday disappeared. But let's just say the things doing the rounds on the artist formerly known as twitter fall into the "the man doth protest too much" in regards to the "deadly sins" section of his speech. And he wouldn't be the first.

Is it that wild? The Bills have won 4 division titles in a row. They are the dominant force in the AFC East. The only team on a longer active streak of division tiles in the NFL is the Chiefs. The Bills are the class of the AFC East until someone knocks them off. Miami had a chance to do it in their own backyard last year and fluffed their lines.

To be fair I think Cover 1 were always homers. Even when they were doing more Xs and Os stuff. The list of times I think they were wrong in their breakdown because they were trying to put a positive spin on it is too long to repeat.

Not sure three highly touted rookies who you expect to play would have been a great idea. Just in terms of getting them all practice reps with Josh in OTAs and camp there are only so many to go around. Teaching them all the playbook and the scheme and trying to build chemistry with the QB is a real thing. Could that have potentially brought two highly touted guys along and then a 3rd guy who you basically run with the 2s and 3s this camp because you see him as a developmental piece? Sure. But trying to get three rookies up to speed by week 1 ready to start or play significant time I think would have been a stretch. Just for the sake of the argument look at MLB last year. McDermott started camp with a 4 person rotation - Bernard, Dodson, Klein and Spector. And by the end of the week 1 it was down to Bernard and Dodson because he was worried the reps were being spread too thin and nobody was close to getting up to speed. Basically it isn't Madden. It is real football.

I don't buy this "pass catching weapons" thing either. It's the Sal C argument. The receivers might suck but they have KIncaid and Knox and Cook who can all make plays. Sure. But sometimes in the clutch it comes down to your receiver against their DB. If Shakir doesn't get held up for a second at the end of the KC game Allen throws it a second earlier, Jones never gets there and the Bills have a touchdown. While weapons in the round definitely matter there is a reason guys who play outside are more valuable in the NFL.... tackles, edge rushers, outside receivers and corners. Because it is hard to hide that with scheme. It becomes mano v mano. And the Bills still have a big question out there. I think in 2021 there was a case for taking one somewhere. In 2022 and 2023 I thought it was where they should have been looking round 1. They ended up backed into a corner this year where Diggs and Davis were gone and they had nothing in the pipeline.