GunnerBill

It got to the point for the Pats where their fans would openly admit the season didn't really begin for them until Thanksgiving. That was partly the way Bill coached too. He'd experiment a lot early on. Especially offensive line and defensive secondary he'd often roll through 6 or 7 different combinations those first 8 or 9 weeks. Then he'd kind of lock things down and the team would kick on from there.

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Achillies not ACL. But point made.

I think the American attitude to sports betting is kind of weird. It's just a normalised part of the sports culture in the UK. We have had legalised high street bookmakers since 1960. I don't see any signs that it has made our sport poorer and the limited number of match fixing scandals we have had have almost all been run by criminal gangs from outside the UK (mainly the far east).

And he won't play 17 games.

Correct. Aaron's biggest problem has always been Aaron.

He has always come across as a self obsessed douche to me and I think the way he behaved in Green Bay both at the end of the McCarthy era and then again post the drafting of Love was really poor. He is on my list of most disliked NFL players.

No I wasn't. No idea where you got that from.

He does talk a lot but he is an engaging interview. I imagine that is why shows like to have him.

I'm still totally invested in the offseason up to the draft. I am less invested in OTAs and mini camps and such things because ultimately each of the last 5 or 6 years I reckon 48 or 49 of the 53 were set in stone after draft weekend. In some of the drought years there were 12-15 roster spots potentially up for grabs. That made the offseason programme interesting to me. I'll really kick back in during camp, especially as we ramp up to the pre-season opener. There are a few stories there to follow IMO. Who wins the starting safety jobs. Who gets looks in the return game and what they do at gunner now that both Jones and Neal are gone. How the rotation looks at defensive end opposite Groot and to an extent what their base wide receiver look is.... although I'd be surprised if it is anything other than Coleman at X, Samuel at Z and Shakir in the slot.

I mean he is a Chief in the same way that Tre' McKitty is a Bill.

I think that is a bit of a stretch. He has just turned 21. I'm not a lover of the Coleman pick but I think he could be pretty average as a rookie and still possibly develop into a top receiver. I look at someone like Davante Adams who was a 2nd round pick and was pretty average his first two seasons before he really started to take off and he had Aaron Rodgers throughout. I'm not telling you it will happen with Coleman but I'm not sure we will know by halfway through year 1.

Houston are better than Jacksonville. I was the guy telling everyone here last offseason Houston was gonna be good. That roster is young and talented. People were sleeping on them. I don't think they are a Superbowl contender yet, but they are not a Jags like one season wonder type story. They are going to dominate the AFC South the next few years.

He didn't just say it once though, did he? He ranted on about it most of the year. I mean it isn't even on my top 10 for most annoying Bills but I see why someone would think so.

I agree with you on this. But I do think if they feel they don't have a #1 by this time next year they will try again to acquire one.

Yes, I am saying that. I don't think you should take anything at all from how they build the room in 2024 other than they were doing the best they felt they could given their other pressures. In terms of next year's receiver room IMO one of two things happens..... 1) Keon is great as a rookie and is the established #1 going into 2025; 2) He doesn't and they are aggressive next year to find a #1 either by trade or by going receiver early again in the draft.

I agree they do everything with a purpose but their purpose is not always about the immediate short term. Unless you think in 2018 Beane put together the worst collection of skill position players and offensive linemen the Bills have had this century to support his rookie QB because he thought that was a good idea? He didn't. He thought taking on all the dead cap of the guys they had moved on from - Sammy, Darby, Dareus, Glenn, Tyrod etc - in one hit was a good idea. The offensive talent reflected the reality that he had less to spend as a result. That is what is happening here IMO. Beane's purpose is to do a mini-reset of the roster in 2024 to transition from the first Allen era team to Allen era 2.0. He has built the best WR room he thinks he can in that context. It doesn't mean they aren't trying to win in 2024 but their #1 objective in their roster decisions this spring was to begin that reset.

I supported the swing. I am not second guessing that now. But I do think luck was against them. I think he is toast. I see fewer than 6 sacks and a lot of looking washed in 2024. Doubt he starts for most of the year.

Player? Percy Harvin in his short tenure wae up there for me. One of the most overrated NFL players of his generation. Constantly running wrong routes and tripping over his own feet. I am sure there must be others but he was the first that came to mind. Coach? Agree on Hackett. Thought he was a dreadful playcaller. Dave Wannstedt's defense as well. At times it looked like he called the exact same defensive look every single down all game long. But #1 has to be Rex. Hated everything about him. His personality. His bombast. His leadership style. And his playcalling.

I haven't been, no. I will make it at some point. But man I hated Rex. I hated him befofe we hired him and he was even worse in reality than in theory. He sucked all the joy out of being a Bills fan for me. I was ecstatic when he got fired.

The moment Rex's firing became public.

Seems that way because it is that way.

$90? Thought it was $79.89? Was Keon lying?

I don't have me game by game breakdowns with me at the moment cos I am on vacation. But on the Coleman point the LSU game was his best game of the year. That said the clear separation he gets on one of his touchdowns (I think it was the first one from memory) is on a route run from the slot into zone coverage where he gets a free release. When those of us who talk about his struggles separating they are not the types of play we are trying to project to the next level, where we presume given their other roster needs, the Bills are more interested in him as an outside receiver.

Trading for a WR1 after June 1st has never been the plan.