GunnerBill

Trust me with Rapp they have not been deceiving. There have been times where he has been a liability. I agree I think the Bills will get more out of him. Talent wise he is streets ahead of Jaquan, Damar, Lewis and Marlowe who all played meaningful snaps in 2022. I like the signing. It is a buy low gamble on natural talent.

Averaging 72% completion % against and a passer rating in coverage of over 98 is.

He has been a disappointment in the NFL Rapp but there is talent there. As a low price gamble I like it.

Oliver gets washed less than the likes of Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle who are both much bigger. The "Ed struggles against the run" thing is like two years out of date. In 2021 he was our best run defending DT and last year okay, Jones was #1 but Ed was comfortably #2.

Love these. I'm in.

Year 3 was his worst year IMO. I thought he had some struggled as a rookie, but made some plays too. Teams used misdirection against him a lot and got him to bite. Year 2 he still hit the wrong gap a lot in the run game but was excellent in coverage. Year 3 he had a down year. He got hurt early and he was particularly brutal in Tennessee. It was the covid year and the Bills D started really slow as a whole and only got going 2nd half of the year. I thought year 4 he started slow but played really well down the stretch. Year 5 was his best year as a Bill IMO because while the stats you quote were better as a rookie he posted his lowest completion % given up, lowest passer rating when targeted, lowest yards per attempt and yards per completion surrendered, his fewest missed tackles and gave up ZERO touchdowns in coverage.

And on how you feel you are set at safety. Poyer is a $2m hit to cut. Hyde is a FA. Maybe they get Benford some snaps there in 2023 and evaluate him? Maybe they draft someone? Maybe they keep Poyer both years? Maybe they extend Hyde? But a White & Benford safety duo in in 2024 would only be a million or two more expensive than Hyde and Poyer in 2023 and you'd have two starting corners on rookie deals. Again, not advocating for this plan, drafting another DB in round 1 is not my ideal outcome but in a draft this poor if you get a chance to take Joey Porter or Anton Harrison or Jalin Hyatt at #27 as much as we all want offensive pieces you would be ignoring a guy in another tier of talent altogether to force an offensive pick. When people talk about draft reaches this is what they talk about. Not a team picking the 32nd player on their big board when the 25th guy is still on the board.... but a team ignoring a player in a higher tier prospects to force a pick at a particular position. This is also an option though. Depends how Tre plays this year.

You wouldn't take Joey Porter Jnr in the extremely unlikely circumstances that he drops to #27? I think I'd sprint to the podium. Not in love with taking another 1st round corner but he'd be incredible value there.

Agree if you draft someone round 1 you want them to start on the boundary really. In this draft class I think what you are hoping for if you go receiver is that the guy you take can split those reps with Gabe in year 1 and take over in year 2 if (and as we all expect, when) Gabe moves on.

No to Jones. Ugh his footwork and hand placement is nowhere near first round level to me. He is a huge man but the technique leaves a lot to be desired. Wright I like but he is right tackle only to me. Tennessee moved him to left tackle in 2021 and then moved him back last year and the tape at right tackle is a lot better. I don't think he has the hip bend or functional strength to be a blindside protector in the NFL. If the Bills moved back 10 spots or so and wanted to take Wright early in the 2nd I could get on board with that.

See I think this is part of it, especially with Davis. There were a lot of people who were sold on him coming off the KC game and who had, in my view, slightly over the top expectations for him in 2022 and he didn't meet them and now are slightly too negative on him. It's about finding that sensible middle ground.

There was nothing mysterious about the Adolphus Washington cut. He was pretty much the worst starter at any position in the NFL the second half of 2017. Garbage. He was. The only short armed corner in the entirity of the regime.

Branch here (he is a safety to me) or Antonio Johnson the only ones worth considering at #27. Again not arguing for a safety but they are two of the safest picks in a bad draft IMO.

In the spirit of the way I have approached these.... Kincaid or Mayer at #27. Musgrave possibly end of the 2nd. Nobody else before the 3rd.

Or move Tre to safety.... but yea... if there is a BPA at a premium position sticking out I am not gonna kill them for going that route even if it doesn't excite.

I did.

As much as a CB would not excite me at #27 if a guy fell and the Bills pulled the trigger no complaints from me.

Campbell isn't as talented as Simpson and is less of a fit in this defense. I know some people hope they change the defensive scheme. I don't. That isn't the problem. Doesn't mean I hate Campbell. If they traded back and took him I'd support that I think.... but probably less so if Simpson was on the board.

Your statement was about other slots being acquired while their best slot was released. Beas is the best slot this team has had in the Allen era. But I was saying in like week 11 or 12 of 2021 - watch the film. The guy can barely move. I'd love them to have replaced Beas and they haven't. But that isn't an argument as you suggested it was that they should have kept Beas. He was washed.

Not a lot else. I just don't see them in anyone else either. It's a ***** draft.

Hyatt, Harrison, Simpson would by my 1,2,3 I think. And I will stack them in that order. But my #1 option would be Trade Back.

No I was disagreeing with the concept. I get it you posed it as a question. I didn't respond directly to the question because my view on that is elsewhere in the thread.

No the point isn't necessarily invalid. But Beas had 35 yards in 4 games with Brady and Allen in 2022 after his production significantly droppef off down the stretch in 2021. The "we haven't found the answer at slot yet" part of your post was correct. While we are on Harty...been watching some of his tape the last couple of days. Surprised how much he played outside for the Saints actually in 2021. That might have been necessity given their paucity of options, but he had some nice plays as a true wideout. I wonder now if that is part of the attraction for Beane? McKenzie was "slot only" and despite them trying to tell us otherwise in camp last summer by the end of the season they seem to have accepted that Khalil Shakir is slot only too. Harty and the fella from the Dolphins at least bring some in-out flexibility, whereas last year it was Diggs and Davis and then Kumerow was the only other option outside. Which is not me saying the Bills have enough at receiver btw - they don't.

I have already answered that question in the thread.

I think this too. And it is unpopular even with me haha.