GunnerBill

I just think someone would have to really fall to make it affordable.... I can see them maybe getting to similar range as last year.... low 20s...

And picked very well too.

Agree. What tends to happen in weaker drafts is teams start hedging towards scheme specific sooner than usual because there are fewer consensus players up there that everyone has high. Wouldn't shock me if we have a few more Cole Strange in round 1 type moments on the Thursday this year.

There are still some folks doing 2.... so someone might be willing to re-assign one?

No. But I certainly don't hate it at that price. If it is $3m per its like a C+ move for me. If it is $4.6m per I'd downgrade it a full mark to a D+

I might quibble on the choice of corner (but all the top 3 are good prospects don't think Witherspoon is 'wrong' per se) but agree with your reasoning. It is Carter if he falls or whoever the Lions have as CB1.

In a world where Richardson isn't there and Carter is (i.e. this mock) I think Pete Carroll would take all of 0.01 seconds to turn in the card. The right pick.

It is. I have some re-checks to do (and I have not done my deep dives on the QBs yet hence I have stayed a little out of the fray on those) but I counted up my grades the other day.... 12 1sts, 4 borderline 1st/2nds, 15 guys with mid to high 2nd round grades. Ironically that adds up to 31 which is the number of 1st round picks there are this year. And while it sort of evens out by round 4 and 5 there are fewer 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders on my board than in any of the previous 9 years I have been doing this.

I know this is the "no trade mock" thread but I did a two rounder on PFF this morning. I traded back three times before making my first pick Trade 1 - with Houston: #27 for #33 & #65 Trade 2 - with Indianapolis #33 for #35, #106 & #162 Trade 3 - with Las Vegas #35 for #38, #100 & #204 At #38 I selected Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee I then traded back up to get ahead of the Jets while keeping my own 2nd round pick. Trade 4 - with Tennessee: #41 for #65, #91 & #204 At #41 I selected Jack Campbell, LB, Iowa Then plan was then to try and pick up an OL at #59 but they flew off the board and I couldn't get back up. So in the end: At #59 I selected Derick Hall, Edge, Auburn Disappointed not to add an OL somewhere in the first three picks but overall pleased with that haul and I would still have a late 3rd (in the comp pick zone), two 4ths, two 5ths and a 6th to try and get up early in the 3rd for maybe a Chandler Zavala or a Cody Mauch (who was still on the board).

Scouting doesn't work that way. You don't have an "offensive line scout" and a "running back scout". The scouts specialise by geographical area not by position.

None of the "but they are fast" receivers ran fast enough at the combine IMO. I mentioned it elsewhere with regards to Tank Dell too. The one thing I will say for Hyatt is despite his limited route tree the routes he runs he does run well. I think he is the best of the 2nd tier of receivers because he has 1 skill I know can translate.

3rd would be too early for my tastes. I have a 5th on him but late 4th I suppose from a value standpoint I'd not hate it. Where I would struggle is I don't know what he does better than Shakir other than block. And while I like receivers who can block I am not sure I like drafting them for their blocking if that makes sense?

They are both small. But at least they don't have alligator arms. And Downs (albeit lighter) just seems to get bumped less on film. They were all in the 4.4s too. That disappointed me for Tank especially. I still have Zay and Josh as late 2s. Tank needed to run faster to be a 2 for me. I have ended up with a 3 on him.

Clark isn't signed because the last two years he has sucked. I know he had a huge game in the playoffs against the Bengals but that is not a reflection of who he has been the majority of time in 2021-2022. At times his effort has been non-existent.

If it is the difference between us starting or not I am happy to take one for the team and pretend to care about the Dolphins. But it someone else without a team wants it then let them go first.

Appreciate the words. I think you are right Ramirez probably goes later than round 4 but that is the grade I have on him. He is just so natural as a rusher. In terms of actual rush package his is as good as any edge rusher I have watched in this class save for Anderson. Of course you are right that you have to factor in the low level of competition and ask whether he might lack a bit of pure strength and power when NFL level OLmen get their hands on him, and he can't play the run to save his life, but the skillset that he does have is a valuable one - he rushes the passer and he does it well.

Hailassie was one on my long list too. Really like him. He is gonna start for someone in this league.

I mean if you were ever going to sit a draft out, fall asleep Marv Levy style and wake up on Sunday realising you missed all your picks..... this is the one to do it in. Haha.

I'll go 1 by 1 through yours: 1. CJ Stroud - I don't think he will bust. Will he become a top end guy? No maybe not. Not sure what the ceiling is. But he is the most accurate passer I have seen come out of Ohio State. 2. Tyree Wilson - needs the right situation is still very raw - but if he finds he could be a star. If he doesn't the bust potential is there. 3. Peter Skoronski - I agree he can't play left tackle. I have him graded as a guard with some tackle flex. I think at guard he could be very, very good. 4. Darnell Wright - If you play Wright LT in the NFL he is for sure a bust. He couldn't play left tackle in college. His shot at being a decent NFL player is at right tackle. 5. Adetomiwa Adebawore - 100% agree. 6. Luke Musgrave - yea boom or bust. Huge projection. Wouldn't shock me if he busted. 7. Cody Mauch - again he is a bust if you want to play him at tackle. He is a guard where he has a chance to be a starter (but he won't be a pro bowl type). Then I'll add a few of my own. 8. Dawand Jones - there isn't one thing to like about him technically. Why might he get drafted early? Because he is a huge man and played at a big school. That's it. 9. Zay Flowers - he is too small. Too weak. Lacks length. He might be a serviceable slot and gimmick player somewhere for a few years. That's it. 10. Nolan Smith - I don't think he knows what he is doing. He got by in college on his own superior talent and the superior talent of those around him. If someone wanted to take a shot late 2nd or in the 3rd round in the hopes of coaching him up, I could get behind it. But he us gonna go round 1 and I see no pass rush skill or technique there at all.

There is nothing "lunch pail" about Milano.

To @BADOLBILZ's point players very, very rarely move significantly up team draft boards after the initial board is set in Jan/Feb. Small moves happen - bump a grade up a point or two, bump one down a grade or two with re-checks and player meetings etc. But big changes are rare. And when they happen it is almost exclusively with small school guys who are barely on the radar and then flash at the All-Star games and/or the Combine forcing teams back to the tape on them. The idea that guys like Campbell and Wright who have started multiple years in the two biggest conferences in college football and have been recognised as "all-conference" players are somehow shooting up boards at this stage is for the birds. What I should add though is there are occassions when a guy is called a "riser" by the draft media but really it is just them catching up to teams. Greg Newsome was an example of that a couple of years ago. At the start of the process the mockers and the board builders almost all had him as a late 2nd / early 3rd. He "shot up" late into first round contention because media guys talk to teams and teams were saying "he is gonna go day 1." But that had alwys been the case. To an extent Travon Walker last year was another example. When the process begun the draft media was lower on him than teams. He ended up the #1 overall pick.

Steelers Falcons Packers Any of those Virg.

I have not @Paup 1995MVP but best of luck to him.

Yea the reason I didn't have Woolen on my list last year was because I didn't consider him really a sleeper. I mentioned him in my Senior Bowl write up last January but the time I did this post last year he had a ton of buzz. But then again he went in the 5th, so maybe he WAS a sleeper for teams even if not for the draft media.

I think late 3rd is too early. He is a total size-speed projection.