GunnerBill

Jeanty is a Raider..... Okay. The top guys are all gone. Now you are into flavours of ice cream from here on in.

He is one of the best players in a bad class though. Good pick.

Pleased for Graham. He is one of the best 4 players in this draft for me. Deserves to be a top 5 pick.

Vrabel drafted a crybaby offensive tackle..... off brand.

Yes. But his decisions as owner have sucked. There is ZERO debate.

He became owner in 2005. Coughlin and Eli were already in place. Every decision he has made, including foisting Daniel Jones on multiple staffs, has sucked.

Not helped by the idiot owner.

Like Travis's jacket

I think it might be for Carter.

WOWWWWWWwwweeeeee! DUVAL!

Yooooouuuuuuuu know it

Okay I made that 4.5 minutes

You didn't have riding a bicycle on your bingo card, did you?

Where I am that is 23 hours away..... should just about be doable.

Over/Under on minutes Rog speaks for before he ACTUALLY puts TEN on the clock? 6.5?

sorry missed this somehow.... have deleted mine.... I'll blame it on being 1am already!

I'd be surprised. There just remains such a higher tariff on the passing game.

@Simon @Moderator - are you creating a pinned thread as normal?

The Cardinals are a team I have a decent history with haha. The Commanders as well actually - though that will get tested this year new regime whose pick last year was obvious and this year right back at the end of the round. Agree on the Dolphins as a possible corner team. The Colts too if there is a world where both tight ends are gone (althought my instinct is they'd go Stewart).

I'm only just getting to Beane's presser. Just heard him talking about defensive tackles. He just said even a DT who is so dominant against the run that everyone in the stadium knows it is still less valuable than a DT who can get you 4 or 5 sacks. Let that be the end of the Bills drafting a big fat space eater talk 😁 (To be clear I think Grant is more the 2 and a half down player Beane was talking about who can at leadt condense the pocket and get some clean up stuff on 3rd down, but it does show you where they are on "run stuffing DTs" and it is not where many fans are.)

First off, I don't think the Bills are going to draft Kenneth Grant. But as it happens he is the 30th best player on my big board. I think there is a chance you could slide back to the early 30s in round 2 and get Grant. But equally he could be off the board before our 1st round pick (and indeed is in my mock). As @gonzo1105 and I discussed the other day he is one of a number of dudes in this draft with a pretry wide window in terms of where he can go.

That's only the ones that make the top 5s. There are 2nd rounders that don't. I have 15 firsts, 4 borderline first / seconds, 35 seconds, 3 borderline second / thirds. I make that 57 guys. 64 spots. By the end of round 3 the gap grows by 1 because of all the comp picks.... I have 94 guys with at least a 3rd/4th borderline grade and there are 102 picks up to that point. It varies year to year but that is kind of always the case. The gap between the number of true first round grades and actual first round picks even in a strong first round year is typically 10 to 15. Then you claw it back a bit as you go and the draft fills out a bit. Ha I have quite a few running backs ahead of Jaydon Blue. He is my RB10. Don't like his vision. He misses too many holes at the line and guys who know my criteria for backs vision is big. He also puts the ball on the ground too much both fumbles and drops. I think he is an RB2 in the NFL and his lack of ability in pass pro makes that tricky too. I like his speed and I like his feet. He has good quick feet to change direction. I wouldn't be upset with Revel. They have just never drafted a guy early with an injury red flag.

I hacked into your huge board. It's the hugest.

Yea I think he will too but I do think it will be a trade back in rather than the Steelers. I used to do trades in my final version mock but I found it completely threw off so much it those trades didn't happen in reality it made grading your mock year to year really tough so I stopped. I think it might be the Giants trading back in. There is lots of talk that Mara is pushing Schoen to do it. He made the Daniel Jones decisions so it wouldn't shock me.

It's Pete Guelli who runs the organisation day to day. I suppose he is kind of the new Russ Brandon. He was here for a bit in the 00s in a more junior role from memory then has been away with the Charlotte Hornets and the New York Giants working his way up the ladder. Think he runs the Sabres too now?