GunnerBill

Can he not? In which case he is Efe Obada take II

Ha I knew you were being arcastic I was just making clear that I both agree with neither "no other coach could make the playoffs" and "any other coach would make a superbowl." Neither are true.

Sounds like he is probably the Shaq replacement, right?

I know very little about him, not a guy I have ever really noticed on film. Not that I watched a ton of the Commanders last year. Interestingly his production (5 sacks, 8 pressures, 6 TFLs) seems to have been disproportionately in the games where he was rotating in as a backup rather than his 8 starts after the Young / Sweat trade. 4 sacks, 5 pressures and 3 TFLs as a rotational end; 1 sack, 3 pressures, 3 TFL as a starter.

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I know they have in the past..... that is where their relationship comes from. I do not remember hearing that they had done so last offseason specifically. EDIT: this is what Palmer said to the press last September: "I think he’s completely locked in and I’m hearing amazing things about how it’s gone this offseason out in Buffalo,” Palmer said. “It’s a long year. You’re banged up, you’re beat up - emotionally there’s things that have happened. You gotta reset. … There’s always drama. ... This offseason it was the Diggs thing and next offseason it’ll be another thing. That’s what playing franchise quarterback is - you’re a problem solver. You’re putting out fires. I think that’s what the great ones do.” That makes it sound like while they are still in contact Josh didn't specifically go to work with Palmer. But happy to be told otherwise.

I suspect it is more than one thing. But there we go.

He isn't the best snapper, but he is a darn good blocker.

Was it? I didn't hear anything about him working with Jordan last offseason and I do think there were some signs of regression in some of his fundamentals. That isn't me accusing him of not working hard by the way - I have no idea what he did last offseason but I didn't hear, unlike previous years, mentions of him working with Palmer and I thought it was telling when he was on the media round at the Superbowl he was asked about his offseason workout plans and didn't mention Palmer once. I sort of suspected that relationship had concluded. I'd be interested in hearing to that contrary.

Boogie was drafted as a defensive end. They did talk about using him inside in some packages but I'm not sure he ever did it for us in a game.

I don't know. But I really hope he works hard this offseason. I feel like Josh being dialled in is the difference between this team being in a lot of one score games and us winning more comfortably.

I didn't.

We signed Rapp too though. That is what confuses me. I think Edwards is a slight upgrade but neither is a guy I want as my best safety.

I had watched plenty of Hyde and some of Poyer. I have watched plenty of Edwards. I was confident about both the first two - I said on here Hyde was "great signing". I am less confident on Edwards. Not that he can't start..... but if he is your best safety you have a problem.

I think Edwards is a starter based on our current roster. But he is a low end starter. I am worried about the safety position.

Great. Now we have three backup safeties. When do we get a starter?

I mentioned him a few weeks ago as a potential depth dust settles guy.

I don't think anyone has said we draft plenty of wideouts. If they have that is just plain wrong. That have only drafted two defensive tackles in seven drafts though. Not that I am arguing they should draft one early. I don't think they should. They need to take some day 3 shots at their Dline IMO. I mean so far the Bills drafting trends are very similar to the trends of the Carolina front office he was part of.

Agree, unless you think Cooper DeJean ends up at safety. I think he can play corner though and if you are drafting him in round 1 I think you probably have to believe that too.

Yea he seems to understand how everything else worked out but still be confused on how the 9ers (Jimmy G) and the Bills (Edmunds) didn't get 3rd rounders.

Yes he will. He isn't a Khalil Shakir who really you can only get value from in the slot. He is more actually of a comparison with the Ladd McConkey conversation we have been having around the draft. He can be a move receiver for you. But he isn't suddenly going to turn in to a vertical threat guy who beats press off the line and gets down the field and wins against physical corners. That isn't who he is. You don't need stats to see that you just need to watch him play. He is going to be most effective in the short and intermediate game and that means he is going to take his share of slot reps.

It can "go higher" but what he does best is win those short, quick catch and run routes. That is where he will be seen to best effect. You can run some of that from a wide alignment but you are going to run a lot more of it from the slot.

Not all, but the majority of those guys are 3Ts. We have our stud 3T. So taking a DT at #28 is either taking a guy who is taking snaps off one of your best players (that's not wise) or you are taking a 1T. And a 1T in the first round is just bad allocation of resources.

I think Johnny Newton is a steal at #28, I really do. He is a top 10 talent in this class for me. I absolutely love him. However, I will make the same point I have made over and over.... the second best and most impactful player on the Bills in 2023 was Ed Oliver. He played 70% of the snaps and when you have paid a DL that kind of money you need them to be on the field in that range. Newton is a 3T. Can he play some 1T, sure. Hell Ed Oliver played a ton of 1T his second season with the Bills when Star opted out because the other DTs sucked against the run. But that isn't where you will see him to best effect. Newton can be a stud 3T in the NFL. But I don't think the Bills can afford to spend their 1st round pick on the second most settled position on the team after Quarterback. He is two spots off the bottom of that list and yet just outplayed half those above him. I am not into trading up for him, but if Latu got to #28 I'd pick him. His point was in 7 drafts they have drafted exactly two defensive tackles - Oliver and Phillips. That is because they have spent way too many FA $$s there IMO.

I mean Flowers was 4th best as a rookie. Hyatt and Wilson have shown flashes. But to have them above Addison and Rice doesn't strike me as super smart.