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Except with a totally different gameplan than the one responsible for helping him win that MVP.... however much we all disagree with that award more fundamentally.

Pass on Williams. He is a slightly better Gabe Davis but the gap between them is not much.

Yes, sorry I meant that it wasn't a slam dunk that they pick up the option then sign after next season. I agree they will pick up the option. I think most likely they extend him after 2024. But a play out the 5th year isn't impossible.

We met him at the Combine or maybe the Senior Bowl too. Bears watching. I'm with you. 4th rounder.

Yea I don't think he is very good tbh. Never have.

Didn't know he was still in the league. This should be vet minimum - hopefully it is just a fill out the 90 move (they did need some receivers for OTAs etc) and he doesn't make the roster.

I don't agree with him, but I think there is a germ of a point there. I'm not advocating being weak against the run or building a weak defensive line. I am saying seeking to build a dominant run stopping defense to force teams to be "one dimensional" which 15 years ago was absolutely something teams sought to do is no longer a winning strategy against the best Quarterbacks. Exactly.

Yea I liked him as a slot coming out. He was my top "slot only" type that year. Doesn't make a ton of sense though given they have Taron and in our defense he couldn't play the kinda hybrid nicklel/SAM role that Taron plays. If he sits out on the market sure I could see it later as a depth move on a vet min type deal. Didn't Von only break on actual Day 1 as well? I was at Cheltenham for the racing when it broke so that means it was start of the league year rather than tampering period. It broke like 2 hours before the league year officially opened but it was a day 1 of the league year drop.

5th year option, extend after next year is the most likely outcome. But not a slam dunk.

I don't go as far as having a bad run defense is better.... but I do think there is a grain of truth. The days of "run and stop the run" are over. And if you build a really dominant run defense to the point teams barely even try against you then that is good against teams with average and bad Quarterbacks but it isn't great when you play the good Quarterbacks.... because you want those teams to get cute and waste downs rushing.

Agreed. Ed and Taron are the last two levers to pull. Can we release Taylor Rapp and sign a proper safety? Just pretend it was all a bad dream?

At the prices I like AJE better. If you swapped the contracts round I'd have been fine with a flier on YGM. AJ is a better rusher. YGM is probably a bit better rounded.

We needed bodies there but I like the 4 guys we have got. Hopefully this is very cheap.

Ah okay. So you disliked the spelling?

@HurlyBurly51 - you dislike his name?

Can't be mad. He was still an above average safety in 2023 and the Bills let him go. He was always gonna play somewhere.

Yeuter Gross Matos

They didnt. The 3rd was for Ryans. They got a 4th for Jimmy G.

That was suxh a bizzare gameplan.

Think that was probably beyond us.

See I'd take AJE over YGM.

It is just he is the kind of guy who usually gets overpaid in free agency - especially in a thinnish group. Good deal for the Bills.

I don't think he was most fine. I think he was mostly bad. Not liability awful, but he is a backup and played like it.

I take your point on the position element but I'd also say there is a considerably bigger gap between the best center and the 15th best than the best WR and the 15th best. That is just the nature of the game at high school and college level now. There are more uber talented players coming into the league at receiver than any other position. I think there is a legitimate argument that if you look over the last decade corner might be second in that list too. It is now an outside the numbers game as players progress up the pipleline. I think elite lineman are so valuable now because I think there are fewer. No doubt the Chiefs have elite coaching.

Thuney is 100% elite. There is no question about that. Then I think McDuffie (as a slot) and Humphrey at center have a shout too.