GunnerBill

Genuinely, that isn't healthy. I got there for a time with Arsenal in the early 00s. We had an incredible team playing fantastic football and when I look back now I don't know how much, if at all, I enjoyed it at the time. Because I was so obsessed with the outcome. I was a teenage / in my early 20s and definitely less mature but I lived emotionally through the team. I have been much better at enjoying this era of Bills football and Arsenal's renaissance the past couple of years because I have recognised that my emotions have zero impact on the outcome. Still get nervous, still delighted when they win and gutted when they lose. But I enjoy watching the games. Agree. As you said in your following post the Bills and SF are in the same place IMO. They are the two teams who can and do go toe to toe with KC but can't get past them in the post season. San Fran gets to see them later because of conference alignment. Nothing more than that.

I agree too. I have a 2nd/3rd borderline on him. If you are a team looking for someone who can work the middle of the field for you, sure, go draft him. For what the Bills need is he doesn't fit.

I agree with most of this but there was nothing random or unlucky about the flag on Toney. A bad player, made a bad play. All of these games between the two teams are now coming down to either a bad player making a mistake or a good player making a great play.

Yep. 2nd half of the season Diggs was not Diggs so I think that is right. And I have long argued our issue has been lots of good, not enough great.

Yep, you got it. And agree it doesn't impact the decision on keep or cut. But was just an example of where what they were saying was somewhat misleading.

Moderately wrong on Zay. My main point was he needed really specific usage.

I accept the Josh Allen line. The soccer line is beyond the pale.

$22m is the right number. What I am saying is that $9m of that $22m is already baked in. He costs that if he plays. He costs that if he doesn't. So starting from "at the moment we have $31m of space in 2024 and cutting Diggs would eat $22m of that" is wrong. It would eat $13m of that. Because the other $9m is already accounted for in 2025 before you work out the cap space figure.

I just watched some of the video and they say a lot of things that are not actually correct. I question whether they all understand the cap as well as they give the impression they do. For example the Diggs conversation. They say "well if we traded him after June 1 this year sure it opens up $19m in 2024 space but it eats up $22m of our $31m of current cap space for 2025. WRONG. The $31m already accounts for $9m of what would be the $22m total dead money because that is guaranteed money that accounts on the cap in 2025 whatever happens. The additonal $13m would accelerate to the 2025 cap if we traded him post 1 June this year. I don't think the difference affects the decision around whether you trade him or not particularly. But it is just an example of where these guys speak with authority and fans are taking them as gospel and not everything they are saying is accurate. There were a couple of others in the 25 mins I listened to but that one stood out. They consistently make the mistake of thinking all dead cap money is new money you are adding onto cap hits and some of that money is already baked in.

And even on this roster Matt Milano says hi.

I think there is a good chance he is WR6 and will be there. Looks like based on Senior Bowl chatter most teams still have Coleman as a top 25 player. So the top 3, Coleman, Thomas is likely the first 5 off the board. I also think there is a chance no more than 4 have gone when we pick.

A. The NFL is a money making machine. Boards won't need to cut an individual player to make profits that secure their bonuses; and B. Even if that were not the case the current model already treats the players like pawns in the game, especially compared to sports with fully guaranteed contracts. The corporate machine already doesn't care.

I have seen it happen in soccer to an extent. The local rich guy done good is priced out by the billionaire and then the billionaire is priced out by the conglomerate. It is the inveitable result of capitalism. Sports franchises retain their value better than almost any other asset.

Agree with all this except I am higher on Allen and McDermott's chances than you.

They looked great against Skylar. The offense and special teams kept putting them in holes. Skylar had two drives over 30 yards all game.

100% agree. And also while I know not everyone here shares this opinion because he once beat the Chiefs in the playoffs I am not a Zac Taylor guy. I trust Burrow. I just don't trust the organisation around him.

Yea I don't know that I think he does dominate against man. Or at least not consistently enough. I think the Bills need a separator personally and while Coleman has a skill set it isn't that. I like him somewhere where they already had that quick separator type. I think he'd be a good fit with say Olave or Wilson opposite him for the Saints or Jets.

I'd say he is a smoother mover than Gabe as well. I think Legette will run faster than 4.5 but his 20 split will be of interest. Because I agree he is fast but isn't sudden and has to get into his stride to really see the speed.

I like Baker but agree not as a #1. He doesn't have the speed or explosion to win vertically IMO. I do think he is a good route runner though and can be a good intermediate receiver. Of the non-consensus top 10 or 12 guys I habe watched (and that isn't all of them) he is the guy I am most impressed with. Think his understanding of the game and defensive coverages is pretty advanced. Agree Keon doesn't separate. I am all over the map on him. When he is good he is very, very, good. You watch the Clemson film, the LSU film, the Michigan game from last year and you are like "slam dunk 1st round player, possible top 10." And then you watch the Florida game or the Boston College game or Ohio State from last year and you'd struggle to give him a day 2 grade. I have moved him up and down my board more than any player in this class so far. I am settling on he isn't a 1st round grade but he might be upper second. I have stopped watching him now. I will come back in the last week or so before the draft when I have taken some distance.

Pay no attention to height weight until the combine. It's a total lying game.

I have those 5: 1 Legette 2 Franklin 3 Thomas 4 Mitchell 5 Worthy I agree to an extent on Thomas. I think he is a total one trick pony. But at that trick I think he is unguardable.

It was Aaron Schatz. And yea it happens every year now with MVP. The groupthink makes the vote itself a foregone conclusion.

Agreed.

I agree with you re. the type Beane goes for. I am not sure Mitchell is going to run that fast though. He certainly doesn't look that fast on tape. I see him more as a high 4.4s guy. I love Mitchell's hands. But otherwise I think he is a guy who is good at most things without a single exceptional trait. I am with DC Orange he is kind of a middle of round 2 guy to me.

Simple, there aren't.