GunnerBill

Giants only kept 3 tackles and two of them are two of their last four first rounders. So a RT was never likely. Their depth behind their starters is worse than ours. As for linebacker... not sure but they just traded for Simmons so....

I watched their Green Bay pre-season game. Zappe sucked. Honestly not that shocked they cut him.

We have signed him. By my count we are at 53. We have cut Reid Ferguson. He is waiting in the car park. Shakir or Spector to IR is my guess. Similar standard of player. Might have more left in the tank than Quess given their respective ages.

Speaking for myself, a lot. He isn't very good. Big guy with bad technique who has been a part of some awful O Lines. But he has started 80 NFL games and they needed a break glass in case of emergency tackle with some starting experience and who would sign for, or close to, vet minimum having cut Quess. Ifedi is at least younger.

If Dodson had definitively "lost" the job to Bernard he'd be out. I think what is tricky is we haven't seen Bernard take a snap and the last time they were both on the field at Fisher Dodson was ahead in that competition. We are now saying he has lost it through his own play, and I understand that, but what if Bernard is worse? I always thought the winner of that battle starts anf the loser is cut. But there isn't really a winner at this stage. There is a loser and a total unknown. The other way of creating a space is Spector on short term IR. That might give them time to evaluate Bernard while bringing in another vet like Kirksey.

His knee was basically a total reconstruction though. I think that is one of those injuries that has to have a long term effect.

Okay. So who starts at Gunner? Big surprise to me. I really liked him coming out. He'd be top of my PS list. Cos before his injuries in college he was a stud. I am still amazed he went undrafted. Okay I haven't seen the medical reports but I'd have been more than willing to gamble on that talent with a late day 3 pick.

Meh. He has always really kinda sucked. A typical John Schneider first round reach. That said, he has started a lot of games in the NFL and given they have moved on from Quess it was going to be someone of this ilk.

The Bengals? A well run organisation? Is this a joke?

I think they have cleared some of that management structure out but I'd still be very wary of going to play for Cal McNair if I was a high end player. They wouldn't be near the top of my destination list.

Bears announcer saying that Beane allegdly said he is concerned about the position and doesn't think Kyle is up to it.

I loved Jones coming out. Had a 1st on him when most had him as a day 2 pick. But even at his peak he wasn't a true MIKE. More a 3-4 WILL. And he isn't what he was. Regrettably I think I'd pass.

Yes they have. But the Cardinals GM isn't the point of comparison. And he is tossing someone else's 1st rounders... Beane did that when he arrived too. Now he has tossed three of his own day 2 picks before the end of their 3rd season - Ford, Moss, Boogie.

It isn't accurate. See @Tuco above. He has clarified the way the rules work now. The old 6 week cut rules has gone.

I thought the same about the police. Thought Arsenal - City was a banker for the 5.30pm Saturday slot. As for the broadcaster they do the games in blocks. So only about 6-8 weeks in advance.

No I think we move up in the draft.... either our 7th for their 6th or our 6th for their 5th at a guess.

It was Whaley's draft board and his staff had prepared the scouting reports. McDermott was in total charge of the selections.

Yea there have been just two total WTF early round picks from Beane for me..... Basham and Bernard. There have been other picks I didn't love.... thought we took Singletary and Moss both a round before I'd have taken them, I wasn't the biggest fan of Elam (took him half a round too early too), thought Harrison Phillips was a JAG, didn't love another early running back with Cook... but the two that genuinely never made any sense to me were Boogie and Bernard. It is the kind of pick the old Bills would have made.

Depends by how much they didn't hit, right? If they ended up with Rosen they are gone. I think if they had drafted Baker Mayfield they'd have made a couple more playoff appearances in a down AFC East post Brady. Would that have been enough to keep them in the job until now.... that is the question. If they'd made it twice in the past four seasons 2019-2022, rather than four times, and been bounced in the first round both times, I suspect they'd be gone.... but only just.

There is no doubt about it Brandon's day 2 drafting record is not good. If Elam busts that it is his first miss on day one. He has only drafted 1 day one star so far - Allen, but Edmunds, Oliver, trade for Diggs, Rousseau and hopefully Kincaid is a pretty solid day one record. His day three record is good: Siran Neal, Taron Johnson, Wyatt Teller (yes I know he traded him), Gabe Davis, Tyler Bass, Dane Jackson, Christian Benford.... But before this past draft his day two record is pretty awful: Harrison Phillips: played his rookie deal, never won a starting job, left in FA Cody Ford: bust, traded away before the end of his rookie deal for a day 3 pick Devin Singletary: starter for 3 of 4 years on rookie deal, solid pick, left in FA Dawson Knox: SECOND CONTRACT, started as a rookie and every year since, around the top 10 at his position. Easily Beane's best day two pick AJ Epenesa: started 3 games in 3 seasons, has carved something of a niche as a rotational rusher, will likely leave at the end of his rookie deal in FA Zack Moss: bust, traded away before the end of his rookie deal as a makeweight in a trade Boogie Basham: bust, traded away before the end of his rookie deal for a swap of late round picks Spencer Brown: jury massively still out. Big year for him. James Cook: promising. Fingers crossed. Terrell Bernard: still a glimmer of hope but he was behind Dodson in camp when he got hurt.

I didn't even have a 2nd on Boogie. He went a full round before I had him graded. He did get some first round buzz in some quarters... I just never saw how he won at the NFL level. He only won in college by being a full grown 24 year old man mauling teenage boys. Limited speed. No bend. Bad hand usage. Poor technique. No rush moves.

Does him going to the Giants suggest he was a Joe Schoen pick?

Wow. Just seen it. Any news on compensation?

Or it is literally the subject being discussed.....

Thanks. Finally some clarity on the rule. Much appreciated. So essentially it doesn't matter now if the Texans cut him, he qualifies. So if we want Keenum as a backup the best outcome to protect our draft pick is they cut him and we sign him?