GunnerBill

Or not even play well for 4 Quarters. Just don't play so poorly for 2 Quarters that it was barely believable that it was a professional football team out there on defense. They literally were incapable first hald of doing the most basic of basics right. That is what concerns me the most about it. Their fundamentals are absolutely miles off.

It is not the first time Ullbrich has done that to him. The loss to the Jets a few years back where he ended up hurting his elbow was strikingly similar. It was Josh's worst game definitely since Houston last year. Possibly longer. And if I thought it was just that which caused us to lose Id be relaxed. But as much as I'd love to say "it was just Josh had one his very rare bad days, we are all good" there was a lot more wrong than that.

Hmmm. I will hope it is just a super personal issue hence the mystery. The kid can play.

I think that is a bit of a cop out to be perfectly honest. I know I am biased. I was a much better coach than I was a player (different sport admittedly) but coaches coach and players play. Once they cross the white line there is an element to which you are powerless. They have to decide and they have to execute. And I honestly don't see that many players lost on offense. Unlike on defense where I do.

It is definitely an area the Bills can coach it better but I do think it is a bit of a Josh weakness too. Being a Quarterback is so mental and just getting to the point in less than a second where you understand "X is better than the potential of Y so take X" is really incredible mental processing. Josh can make plays Brady, Manning, Brees even Rodgers and Mahomes could only dream of. But he still doesn't quite make some of those mental decisions as quickly as those guys.

I don't disagree with any of that. But a change of scheme again risks that again (and I don't think we have the core prime age personnel we had in that period). We were horrible under Wandstadt though. And year 1 of Rex was horrible too. Year 2 they improved but not enough.

Did we? Whaley oversaw four seasons as GM - two Marrone seasons and two Rex seasons - with his DCs being Pettine, Schwartz, Rex (Thurman), Rex (Thurman and Rob). We had one great defense - Schwartz - and one good one (Pet). Rex's Ds were horrible. I think if we make a coaching change the first season would feel to me a lot like last year.... where I never really believed we were going to win the Superbowl but we were still a decent football team that wins double digit games. You'd still have a puncher's chance, because you have Josh, but you'd be a second tier favourite. I don't think that is a reason not to change coach. If Pegula believes McDermott should be fired he should fire him. Not hold on because he doesn't have an obvious replacement in mind or because he thinks it might take a mini transitional year.

I just think people make assumptions on Cook based on his body type, but he has been one of the most durable and reliable backs in the league. Thank heavens he has to, because the Bills O is in trouble without him.

You don't generally solve blitzes with the oline pass blocking. You have two ways: one is to run some more max protect stuff - which the Bills did on some play action looks and Josh had a fair amount of time on some of those, the problem is it means you have two receivers out in the pattern and with the Bills guys there is no way they are separating 2 v 4 against a secondary. The second is to build a ton of hots into your routes. I agree the Bills can do better in a gameplanning sense there but also there were some that were there and Allen held the ball. I'm not blaming Josh, but he got to the point on Monday that he wasn't trust what was around him and wasn't trusting what he was seeing.

I don't agree with this. People used to say it about Shady as well and what Shady and Cook have in common is they are good at avoiding the massive hits on their bodies because of how quick their feet are. Defenders rarely get clean hits on them.

If we had Callahan I doubt we have won 4 games. Stefanski, sure.

They were better in the second half but my word the bar was low. The first half defense was absolutely pathetic. I think their coverage was generally improved after half time, save for the big blown coverage to Robinson on that final drive but they still couldn't stop that single outside zone run that the Falcons called like 7 or 8 times in the game.

Yea I called that one in the GDT. I don't know why Josh came off it. A combination of that defense (against a DC who has caused him issues before) and a lack of trust in almost everything going on around him. The OL didn't have a good day and I think Josh is fed up of his receivers at this point. Even when he is escaping and keeping plays alive STILL nobody is getting open. Time and time and time again that has happened over the last 3 or 4 weeks. Plays where the past couple of years Josh has got out and made something happen and he is getting out, has his eyes downfield, finding nothing and is just having to scamper out of bounds for 3 or 4 yards.

No. Not even close. The main issue is talent at the skill positions. 100%. The only real criticism I'd make of Brady is that I think the last two weeks he has taken the ball out of James Cook's hands way too much. The offense works when James cooks. It works much less well when it becomes reliant on receivers to get open. This actually looks a LOT like the Tom Brady offense his final year in New England. That was not on Josh McDaniels and this is not on Joe Brady. Can you nitpick at a play call here and there? Yep, you can. I didn't like the sweep vs New England because it was early and we were moving. I wasn't delighted they called it vs the Falcons either, but in that game it was desperation because we could not move the football. Allen didn't play very well in Atlanta (Jeff Ullbrich always seems to cause him issues) but it isn't on Josh either. The main problem with the offense is Brandon Beane.

We lost the toss yesterday.

I don't disagree with any of this except 4. It is not too early. Coleman is a JAG. And slightly #1. The oline was not good last night but a lot of the pressures were blitzes. That isn't normally oline. It is design and hot routes. There was one where Josh DEFINITELY had a hot and failed to throw it to Cook. That is on him. But I'd need to go back and look through all the others. Blitzing Mahomes or Brady or Manning was suicide. Blitzing Allen works. And it is because they don't have receivers who win early to punish teams for blitzing.

Those were bad beatdowns, sure. But the Bills made killer mistakes, turnovers etc in those games. They played a part in their own downfall with stupid stuff. This was just failure to execute the most basic football. And that makes it worse IMO.

Activate Davis now. I don't care if he has one leg. Shavers isn't good enough. And fully healthy Gabe Davis > Keon Coleman. Sad but true.

Ha. I have been for 2 years on it is a year to year evaluation on McDermott and Beane. I am still angrier at Beane than at McDermott but there is no excusing how bad this defense is. It was bad last year and it is worse this year. I know, I know, playoff failings... but that aside McDermott has always been able to hang his hat on his side of the ball is pretty good for the most part. They had top 10 defenses year in year out. But right now the defense is a disaster. And if McDermott can't fix it then I think he can't fix the team.

1. The defense is absolutely trash. There is no question it is poorly coached at the moment and dreadfully called. But the players can't execute the most basic stuff either. Babich has to go. I don't think that is a silver bullet but the not being lined up right on 3rd down in the redzone type stuff has only been a feature since he has been in charge. He is in over his head. Fire him and make McDermott directly accountable for improving the defense. 2. That said there is some Brandon Beane blame there too. Bishop is trash. Williams is worse. Tre White is washed. Rapp is a backup out of his depth. And extending Bernard was a mistake. 3. On offense, Brady isn't faultless - the Falcons never stopped James Cook. He had 4.3 ypc at half time and yet had only 7 carries. He ended at 5.1 ypc on 17 totes. I don't care about load management he is our only weapon. He has to get the ball. Last week and this we have gotten away from him to put the game in the hands of bad receivers. It makes no sense. I don't want to be a run first team but with this roster we HAVE to be. 4. Josh was crap last night. I didn't think he played poorly last week really except for the pick but last night he was bad. The ball never quite seemed to be coming off his hand right and then he got frustrated and was pressing and it spiralled. But I do not for a minute put this on Josh because...... 5. The ineptitiude on offense isn't really on the OC or the QB. It is on the General Manager. He thought Keon Coleman was worth the 33rd pick. WRONG. He decided to spend his cap dollars on mid range FAs lile Samuel and Palmer. WRONG. He vehemently and aggressively defended his total under prioritisation of receiver by blaming radio guys in the spring. WRONG. Teams are basically bracketing Shakir, manning up everywhere else and daring our receivers to win and not a single one of them can. Yes I hated Brady going back to the gimmick sweep play, but he is running gimmicks because he knows what you know, what I know and what Josh Allen knows. In conventional drop back offense his skill guys cannot get open. And that is on talent. And that is on the GM. 6. That is as bad a Bills performance as I can remember since the Peterman meltdown in San Diego. Pathetic. McDermott is squarely on the hook for the defense and as I say I'd make him directly accountable for that the rest of the way. Brandon Beane is on the hook for the offense. I think everyone (possibly except Pegula) believes the extension of their tenures should be a year to year decision at this point. They will be evaluated at the end of the season but right now there are more black marks than credit points on both ledgers for 2025. Both seats should feel boiling hot.

I wouldn't fire him now, no. But if I were Pegula I'd tell him to fire Bobby Babich take over his defense and make him personally accountable for improving it by the end of the season or else forget any other metrics he is fired. Because that last night was totally unacceptable defense for a professional football team. Every time the Falcons ran outside zone they got 10 yards. Guys not lined up properly on 3rd down in the redzone. Players out there who are in year 3 who still don't know their ***** assignments. Disaster class in tackling. It was as bad as year 1 of the Rex Ryan defense for uncoordinated horror show. And forget injuries. If anything it got slightly better the more guys that went down. I still have serious questions for Brandon Beane on how he put this defense together and some of recruitment and retention decisions, but they can wait. That last night was a defense that couldn't execute basic day 1 install type plays. There has to be some accountability for that. It should start with Babich who is in way over his head. But then it should move to McDermott too. Defense is what got him the job. Well the defense is now an absolute mess. So either sort it out or get out.

Sums our night up and sums Josh's night up that drive. Josh having to do way too much, trying to force things and making mistakes. That was a terrible performance all around. A lot of soul searching to be done.

Thompson should have picked that.

Williams. He is hopeless.

Dorian Williams blew that coverage