GunnerBill

Right let's Josh in rhythm early.

Oh good a bad weather game. I swear the last 3 seasons we have had a majority of our games weather affected.

Let's gooooooo Buffallllloooooo!

Are we getting a game day thread?

They have a really good Quarterback. It covers for many ills. But Keenan Allen isn't what he was, Mike Williams is a nice player but not a separator. They check down a lot to a back who as a result has seen his yards per catch plummet.

He has been very ineffective so far. And as above having an extra end up makes sense today.

Kingsley up for Ford makes sense to me. Floyd a bit nicked and the weakness of the Commanders line is primarily the tackles.

Prediction: if they lose today Staley is fired and Kellen Moore becomes interim Head Coach and they get him basically a 14 game audition for the job.

Good point. And the all star games have grown, and the Combine has grown and so when you put all that together it is totally to be expected I suppose that these guys have friends right across the league....

He may well.... but I don't think the evaluation on Saleh will come down directly to how Wilson plays. It might for Joe Douglas.

Yea this is where I am. I think the names on paper are waaaay better than the reality on the field which the past couple of years just hasn't been good.

Thank you for your sacrifice.

Some fans watched the Jets game back and saw those receivers. The Jets game was on Josh. There is no way around it. It is like the second game in 5 seasons that I would legit put on him as the main cause of a loss. That is really good. But it doesn't change the fact that the Jets loss was on him.

No. It is running up the score for rankings. Oregon wants to be in the playoff. When you get a chance to beat a ranked opponent big you take it. Like @Buffalo716 said above... if they are throwing 40 yard bombs fair enough. They were just playing football.

I didn't watch any college football last night, I was out at an event. But they were a mess against Texas. And I mean a mess. They just didn't look to me as talented as we are used to. They will finish the year as a top 10 team but I honestly don't know if I'd pick this 'Bama team straight up to beat any of the teams ranked in the top 8 going into this weekend. I said this at the end of last season and I still think it... Saban needs to go back to his roots and just build two dominant lines. That is how Georgia have overtaken you. They are better up front. I think 'Bama got drawn into chasing the Clemson model who for a few years were a skill position led team and in the meantime Kirby is doing what Saban used to do.

Wilson is on Douglas more than Saleh IMO. A first year HC who was a defensive coordinator by trade is of course going to be involved in selecting the Quarterback but I don't think he can be held accountable for it. If the team quits on the season because of Wilson then I think you can look at the Head Coach because it is his job to keep his defense playing hard and keep guys trying. He did that pretty well last year but early signs this year are concerning players angry tweeting then deleting after games etc. That is where I think Saleh is more vulnerable. Joe Douglas is the guy who tore down the roster and rebuilt and while he has got a lot of pieces right, if ultimately he got the QB wrong he should carry the can. If the rest of the team plays hard all year and Wilson sucking sinks them that is on Douglas and he could be fired.

Yea I agree. I am not as high on Miami as some people but Denver are horrible. Russell Wilson's stats once he is off the opening script are pathetic. The protection sucks and the defense (which actually survived losing Fangio just fine and was a top 10 unit last season under Ejiro Evero) has not been able to overcome the Vance Joseph effect and has regressed. Miami win by two scores and then are brought back down to earth when they are thumped in Buffalo next weekend.

I am not old enough to remember those days. But what I will say is FA changed the league. Teams used to keep a group of guys together for a long period of time. Guys move about much more these days and especially in the last decade when most teams based on analytics have begun to use FA mainly to fill holes and not for long term pieces you increasingly see guys play for 3 or 4 different teams within say 5 years. Which means you are bound to have many more guys you have played with as teammates and are friends with right around the league. QBs are probably the exception. Brady played for the Patriots for 20 years. But then even he, when he went to Tampa, brought his buddies along - Gronk, Shaq Mason, AB etc..

Again I don't agree with it. I am the opposite of a free marketeer. I'd regulate the ***** out of sports broadcasting.

Yea that point isn't now.

The model of internal operations within the league isn't capitalism. I agree with that. But on the exemptions.... market capitalism as a system is built on loopholes for the powerful so that they never fail.

Yea and I think there is something to @PBF81's point. There will be a fair chunk of the black market streamers whose alternative will be "don't watch" because the NFL has priced them out of the market. So the idea that their losses are what they claim is far fetched IMO.

Again though, it is supply and demand. If the NFL charged foreigners the same price it charges you guys fewer would buy. It's the old political joke about how the Treasury sets taxes..... it doesn't work out how much it needs to pay for services and then work out the tax rate from that. It works out how much it can get away with charging and then decides what to spend it on . In the US the NFL has worked out it can get away with charging a lot before customers pull the plug. I don't approve of it, but that is market capitalism for you. They have a product that has a big market and there is quite a lot of price elasticity before people turn off..... and a lack of regulation to stop them exploiting it.

Whereas in the UK it is the other way around. Supply and demand. If you made the soccer as expensive as the NFL in America you wouldn't get subscribers. Vice versa here. Basically by paying what I pay for the EPL and the CL I get all the NFL prime time games plus one Sunday early and one Sunday late for free and then I pay a one off £150 on top for Game Pass on DAZN for access to every other game (and while DAZN is tons worse than the NFL's in house product was, value wise for what I pay I still think that is reasonable). My calculation is I pay about £60 a month for the soccer (and it brings me some of the NFL along for free by virtue of being on the same subscription service) And then £12.50 per month for the NFL.

And the plays where Josh made his big mistakes against the Jets were not plays where he needed to make something happen.