GunnerBill

Same. First punt I'd definitely have punted. Second one I'd have thought about going because you are two scores up and given the time at that point if you convert the game is basically over. But I understood the decision to punt. Last one you had to punt because the spot made it 4th and a long 1 and a TD won Tampa the game. But they got a bit safe in the playcalling. The first of those 4th downs was caused by that mess at the end of the 3rd Quarter of course. Hard to put that on coaching. And I don't think the Tampa guy did jump either. Looking at it I think it was a good no call. I just don't know why they were playing for that. They were 2nd and 1 in FG range. Just let the quarter expire, even if you are stopped you have all but killed the game if you go up 17.

He gets some calls. The big name QBs tend to. Josh gets more roughing the passer calls than I think he is due because he has mastered the flop.

The two penalties on the last drive were both fouls IMO. Just piss poor execution by players who should know better.

I still think our offense played in fits and starts. I thought the playcalling on the two drives in the fourth quarter where we punted inside their half was really conservative. We stopped attacking. Before that other than the bemusing goalline sequence - shovel, shotgun run, rub route against a zone - I thought Dorsey called a decent game. The Patriots loss was much more on the defense than the offense. But before that final drive we had stopped twice (until needless stupid penalties) the Buccs only got inside our 30 once in the whole game and that was when Allen turned it over. I just think at the moment the two units need to play more complimentary football. That means the offense cannot keep putting the undermanned defense in bad spots with turnovers and it means the defense cannot keep hurting itself on 3rd and 4th down with penalties that extend drives and keep the offense on the sideline. We need to be more disciplined and our execution MUST improve. There have been positives in both games on offense and there were some positives on defense in this game too once McDermott put the blitz away.

You know the commonality between the 49ers losses and the Bills losses? That it doesn't matter whether you have a defensive head coach with injuries on defense or an offensive Head Coach with injuries on offense... you cannot replace your elite level difference makers in this league. It is hard enough when your "next man up" backup has to replace a starter. But when they have to replace one of your stars.... that just doesn't work in this league. McDermott's defense isn't the same without two all pro level guys in Milano and White. Shanahan's offense isn't the same without two all pro level guys in Trent Williams and Deebo Samuel. The difference, sadly, is the 49ers get their guys back at some point. The Bills are without theirs for the year.

This is just not true. I am well aware my opinions are not facts. What I am calling out is people who present their opinions as fact without evidence. "McDermott has become too embrolied in the offense" isn't a fact. It is an opinion not supported by anything other than what a poster feels when he watches the games. That is an opinion. I challenged him on that opinion.

Possibly. I think Lewis just gives them more gameday flex and more special teams ability. When Poyer missed a game they could have suited up Elam, treated Lewis as the 3rd safety and kept Hamlin sitting but they didn't.

I think Baker did slow up. Not immediately. But before the point where a Bill would have got to him.

No my view on Allen was an opinion. Let's distinguish opinion and facts folks. It isn't that hard.

Yep. If they had given us the right spot is is 100% a go for it moment.

I agree. 4th down decisions are on the Head Coach. That hasn't been disputed. It is the bit you just made up that is in dispute.

Nah. I am going on facts you are going on feelings.

He is the 4th best safety on the roster. They only have 3 up on a gameday.

You have zero evidence that McDermott is too involved in the offense. Or telling Dorsey to be conservative. You are just making ***** up.

You are just wrong on special teams. You might be right on Harty not being any good. But they didn't bring him here to play special teams.

But they didn't sign Harty to be a returner. They signed him to play receiver. There wasn't even a vacancy at returner at the time they signed him. I don't disagree he isn't playing to the value of the contract. But they signed him because they thought he was a decent receiver. Just bad talent evaluation from Beane.

Ah yes because kick off coverage is the only special team.

You have zero evidence.

He did save his timeouts yesterday until the end of the game.

I didn't like the timeout before 4th down. However, most of our fans have zero clue about timeour strategy. He was getting questioned in the GDT for the end of first half timeout which he played perfectly. I also get that the number say go for the 4th downs. But the only reason this got close was stupidity by individual defensive players - namely Johnson and Phillips. The Bills stopped Tampa twice. I think we did get a bit conservative in the 4th quarter but it wasn't on 4th down calls it was on playcalling. Dorsey stopped attacking.

Stupid penalties.

Another stupid penalty.

Why is Ed Oliver not out there???

That is a bad spot. He was right at the line. If they had given us the proper spot I'd have gone for it.

Nice play call. Josh getting to his hot.