GunnerBill

Goff is as bad as Tua in genuinely "off script" situations and I say that as someone who has always argued Jared Goff is underrated by most football fans. I think the difference between Goff and Tua isn't "off script" so much as it is "beyond first read." If a play totally breaks down they are both stuffed. But with Goff that only happens really if you get early pressure. It is why being in Detroit behind the best bookend tackles in the NFL is perfect for him. With Tua it happens if you can take his first read away and make him get to his 2nd or 3rd read. He doesn't process quickly enough to do that and at that stage the play is basically broken and he is in trouble. I remember that game in Buffalo early last year and those first two drives Tua actually made a couple of nice plays in that situation where the Bills were right there and just couldn't make a play on the ball. I said then in the GDT - "he won't make those plays all day." And after those first two drives he didn't. The Bills did. And they won in a canter.

Yea he had 1,000 yards as a rookie without Hill opposite him. He was well on his way to #1 receiver status in any event. Of course Josh Allen being our Quarterback is the reason Waddle isn't our receiver. I do think Beane has under prioritised the position in the draft with his Carolina method of valuing receivers but it is a fair point that he makes that a lot of the studs that have come out in recent years have gone way up at the top of the class, as Waddle did indeed.

He is from the Shanahan school. They don't believe in QBs as field generals. They believe their scheme is the star. Get talented playmakers and get a QB who will paint by numbers. The problem with that approach is your path to victory is narrower and as Shanahan has found twice to his cost when the game is on the line in big moments having an elite Quarterback is preferable to an elite scheme.

It was both offense and defense that sucked in that run from Jacksonville to Denver. The Jags game (painful, I was there) they couldn't move the ball almost at all until the game was done. Our first nine drives we had two that went for more than 20 yards. It was abominable play calling. I actually think the defense kept us in that game longer than it had any right to given they were undermanned going in and then lost Milano and Daquan within the first drive. The Giants game the offensive gameplan was mystifying. Our best player was clearly James Cook and Dimwit Dorsey kept ignoring him and passing or running old man Murray. The Patriots game the offense was woeful first half but I put that game almost entirely on McDermott. He called an absolutely shocking game on defense. Jones was clueless except when we blitzed him and he could get to his hot so we spent all day blitzing. Baffling. Tampa, Cincy and Denver were a both units just playing uneven at different times. I'm not sure what was going on in that run of games but for a team as talented as to Bills to play that poorly for a 6 game spell really is inexplicable.

They both did it at the end of their careers. Revis was 29 when he left the Jets the first time. Floyd played for two teams before 30. Ngakoue is 29 now and is looking for a 7th team in 6 years. The skinny on him has always been doesn't play that run at all and tries when he wants.

What you claim never happened. Maybe you have us mixed up with other people. I have never shied away from bad takes I have had. I hated the drafting of Josh, I was wrong. But the idea that last season I compared him to Tannehill.... it never happened. There is a search function on this website. The evidence doesn't exist.

I don't think that helped. But it was mainly on Josh IMO. He made too many bad decisions and threw too many poor balls. The good news is he seemed to snap out of it a little bit down the stretch but we need a more consistent Josh Allen. Because when he is on - I go back to that Miami home game - he is simply unstoppable. The Bills need him to be on more consistently in 2024.

I thought it was Josh's worst season as a passer since 2019, period. I think Josh Allen has to be better in 2024 than he was in 2023 for the Bills to win the division again.

I don't remember that but if you have never heard the character issues with him I'm shocked. Why else do you think a reasonably productive player is looking for his 7th team in 6 years?

It didn't happen. You are spouting nonsense. We've done the searches for you. Saved you the bother. You are making it up.

No because he is a poor character who tries when he wants.

When? I have no idea what you are talking about but I have searched for mentions of Tannehill by @Beck Water in the last year and found one where she talks about the Titans potentially looking for a trade partner for him if Levis looks good last camp. In terms of mentions of Tannehill by me over the past year there are two: 1) last summer when I was sceptical about the value of Hopkins signing for an ageing team who were being surpassed by younger teams in their division and 2) in the Live Day 1 Draft thread of 2024 where I likened McCarthy, Nix and Penix going so early to the early 2010s drafts where Ponder, Tannehill and Gabbert types went early. So you will need to provide some evidence of this claim.

It got to the point for the Pats where their fans would openly admit the season didn't really begin for them until Thanksgiving. That was partly the way Bill coached too. He'd experiment a lot early on. Especially offensive line and defensive secondary he'd often roll through 6 or 7 different combinations those first 8 or 9 weeks. Then he'd kind of lock things down and the team would kick on from there.

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Achillies not ACL. But point made.

I think the American attitude to sports betting is kind of weird. It's just a normalised part of the sports culture in the UK. We have had legalised high street bookmakers since 1960. I don't see any signs that it has made our sport poorer and the limited number of match fixing scandals we have had have almost all been run by criminal gangs from outside the UK (mainly the far east).

And he won't play 17 games.

Correct. Aaron's biggest problem has always been Aaron.

He has always come across as a self obsessed douche to me and I think the way he behaved in Green Bay both at the end of the McCarthy era and then again post the drafting of Love was really poor. He is on my list of most disliked NFL players.

No I wasn't. No idea where you got that from.

He does talk a lot but he is an engaging interview. I imagine that is why shows like to have him.

I'm still totally invested in the offseason up to the draft. I am less invested in OTAs and mini camps and such things because ultimately each of the last 5 or 6 years I reckon 48 or 49 of the 53 were set in stone after draft weekend. In some of the drought years there were 12-15 roster spots potentially up for grabs. That made the offseason programme interesting to me. I'll really kick back in during camp, especially as we ramp up to the pre-season opener. There are a few stories there to follow IMO. Who wins the starting safety jobs. Who gets looks in the return game and what they do at gunner now that both Jones and Neal are gone. How the rotation looks at defensive end opposite Groot and to an extent what their base wide receiver look is.... although I'd be surprised if it is anything other than Coleman at X, Samuel at Z and Shakir in the slot.

I mean he is a Chief in the same way that Tre' McKitty is a Bill.

I think that is a bit of a stretch. He has just turned 21. I'm not a lover of the Coleman pick but I think he could be pretty average as a rookie and still possibly develop into a top receiver. I look at someone like Davante Adams who was a 2nd round pick and was pretty average his first two seasons before he really started to take off and he had Aaron Rodgers throughout. I'm not telling you it will happen with Coleman but I'm not sure we will know by halfway through year 1.

Houston are better than Jacksonville. I was the guy telling everyone here last offseason Houston was gonna be good. That roster is young and talented. People were sleeping on them. I don't think they are a Superbowl contender yet, but they are not a Jags like one season wonder type story. They are going to dominate the AFC South the next few years.