GunnerBill

I did not know this! Thanks!

The other thing they might do is trade one for an up next year. One of those 4ths was from trading away a 5th last draft day to the Bears. That would be next year and I doubt he nets a 3rd. 4th maybe.

Yea the same. If you honestly don't believe it is a coaching problem you should have the courage of your convictions and say that.

My Jags correspondent friend tells me Pederson was under extreme pressure internally to fire Nielsen in-season this year for the terrible defensive performance but resolutely defended him, insisting that coaching was not the reason for their struggles. Not sure what to take from that but found it interesting.

If he puts it altogether he is an ELITE edge player who will get plenty of sacks. The problem with him is his lack of production is because he is unrefined technically. He is a major leaner and when you lean against NFL calibre tackles who have a solid anchor they are just going to overwhelm you. Add to that is hand usage is terrible. It's like he woke up one morning and found two new appendages had been stitched onto the ends of his arms and hasn't yet worked out why. The ceiling is sky high, the floor is basement level low.

Love Princely. He is a very high second round grade to me and EDGE4. I like TJ too. I am trying to divorce "he isn't a fit for the Bills" from "he is a darn good player". I have a 2nd on him but he isn't getting the pop his tape deserves IMO. On Barron he just played 70% boundary corner in 2024 and had his best season. I am adamant he is a full time outside corner at the next level as long as he goes to a predominant zone team. If he goes to a team that plays a lot of man I think you use him like McDuffie is used in KC. He plays outside in base but when they go to nickel comes inside. I think he is the best corner in the class if you think Hunter is a WR. I like all three of those players a LOT though. I like Revel a lot too, but I don't think this regime has ever drafted someone coming off a major injury and I don't expect them to start now. I'll throw a few other names out there: Grey Zabel, OT, North Dakota State - has played every spot on the OL in college. Think he is probably a guard at the NFL level, but he can move and finishes his blocks. Carson Schwesinger, LB, UCLA - bit of a one year wonder but love his 2024 film. He moves really well and he can hit, he can blitz, he can cover... plays with some twitch. Jay Higgins, LB, Iowa - coverage linebacker, can be used as a matchup weapon, is the kind of guy you don't have to take off the field if you are going to nickel or dime on 3rd and long, has a habit of finding the football.

I'd have put Kuechly in. But I'm delighted Jared Allen got in. He was one of the most underrated players of the 00s. He was properly elite he just played on (at the time) unfashionable Chief and Viking teams.

Nope, he didn't. He drafted Tebow, couldn't work out how to get him on the field and got fired. John Fox was the coach who made the playoffs with Tebow. EDIT: just to add to this... in both of his HC stops he arrived at teams with viable Quarterbacks. Not top 10 guys, no stars, but Jay Cutler and Derek Carr were legit NFL starters. In both spots he fell out with them, traded them, and then got worse at the position.

Huge congrats to Josh. Well deserved. I was very confident he would win it until the all pro voting came out, but this is the rare year when the voters split the riches. And I have to say, both Josh and Lamar were deserving in 2024 so splitting the riches was probably the right call.

What does Mike Vrabel have to do with the Music City Miracle? And Josh Daniels? Who he?

Why pray that the Bills don't play as a road team in Australia? I get the not wanting to give up a home game (to an extent at least) but why so desperate when the Bills would be a road team?

@corta765 I believe it is only three London games in 2025.

Reed would be a de-facto #1 here like he has been in Green Bay by virtue of being the best receiver but he isn't a #1 receiver talent IMO. He is a very good #2.

Reed and Doubs are also not #1s. The closest guy they have is Watson but he can't stay healthy.

Haha and now you are mixing up FA fullbacks. It was Jerome Felton, signed as a FA in 2015, cut at final cutdowns in 2016 for baby Gronk, a move reversed before week 2. DiMarco was a McDermott signing in 2017.

If you are thinking the first play of the Rex era in 2015 it was Tyrod at WR. Matt Cassell under center. Home v Colts. And it cost Tyrod a QB win stat as Cassell was recorded as the starter. Famously Rex had boasted to the refs beforehand that our first play was a touchdown on a trick play. Typical Rex. All bluster, clown show execution.

They used to play NFL in baseball stadiums. I'm sure they can find a way to make it work.

1. Hunter, Colorado 2. Barron, Texas 3. Johnson, Michigan 4. Revel, East Carolina - - - 5. Thomas, Florida State 6. Morrison, Notre Dame 7. Amos, Ole Miss 8. Hariston, Kentucky - - - 9. Bryant, Kansas 10. Alexander, LSU That's my top 10 right now. Think the top two tiers are the only guys I'd consider in the first two rounds.

MCG is an incredible venue.

I am not sure after the Elam experiment they will go for a guy like Thomas with the idea that he will be great when we play more man and we can coach him up in zone. Yea. I agree. I think they will sign a vet. It is where in the market they pitch it that will tell us what they think of drafting one.

Yea it is one of the commonalities between our two mocks. We have both cleared out the corner board way before the Bills pick in round two. If they don't get one in FA then I think my version 2.0 will have to have them taking one at #30. Who, I am less sure on. I think Revel, Morrison and Hariston all coming off injuries of some degree, Thomas a slightly less obvious scheme fit... maybe that leads to Amos (who is their type and would be perfect for this scheme) even if #30 feels a tad early for him.

Have the Bills ever taken a guy off a major injury under this regime? I don't think they have (though happy to be corrected). I think Revel had he stayed healthy is a slam dunk top 15 player. But even so, I just don't think taking guys coming off major injuries is their MO.

Nah Barron is an outside corner (he can play nickel and safety but his best tape was this year on the boundary). And if you exclude Hunter he is the best corner in the draft. I'd bet good money on him being a better pro than the Michigan kid. Agree, that is pretty much how I see him too. If they are taking a chance with one of their 2nds I am fine with that. But he is a reach at 30 IMO. I don't think he will end up in the first round.

Pretty similar. He played 86% last Sunday. His highest ever playoff snap count. His highest in a Superbowl was 81% two years ago. Other Bills meetings: 74, 78, 78.

And it shows. Average age of DCs in the league is significantly older than OCs these days. I did the numbers in another thread somewhere the other day. Think it was 14 or 15 current OCs are 40 or younger.