GunnerBill

I am not sure I agree this year. I think the gap between rosters is pretty wide too. That hasn't been the case in previous years. To give some sense of scale (not talking betting odds now) I'd say the gap between Quarterbacks is 1 to 2 points in the Chiefs favour. The gap between coaching and rosters are both in the 5 to 6 point range in their favour this year. Go back two seasons I'd have had roster a point or two in the Bills favour.

Agree with this. But to see two stalwart players like White and Milano both go down with consecutive long term injuries right on top of one another is just pure bad luck IMO. Nothing anyone could have done differently. Although trainers letting a guy that might have torn a bicep do a push up was beyond silly the damage was, by then, done.

Green Bay WILL be better than Detroit. Book it.

I prefer him to you.

I see the Spursy - Billsy comparison. Ability to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory in a way that goes across eras and regimes because it just seems built into the organisation. But I also wonder if there isn't some Arsenal in there. A long drought followed by a lot of very good but not quite good enough. That said the Bills are realistically one of the smallest markets in the NFL. In that way it has some Ipswich Town about it. Had a glory period some time ago. There is no perfect comparison but those are the three comparisons that spring to mind.

I think yes but its mainly because Im down on the AFC East. Expect a Miami step back and not sold on the Jets. If those two are good I think we might be in trouble. 10-7 or 11-6. The latter would be enough if we are a wildcard candidate. The former might not.

No, not at all. There is a very established test you do for an initial prognosis of a bicep tear and it does not involve a push up. Some questions to be answered for the training staff 100%.

I meant to type one of the favourites. My point was he would cut the odds of any team other than the Chiefs that he was traded to. In this "thought exercise". Let's say he signed now for Denver or Atlanta or Seattle.... they would jump into the top 3 or 4 in the betting instantly. If that team was already in the top 6 of favourites they'd jump to the top. But I accept I worded that carelessly.

Yes. All the NFL money lines ever. Your point that they are normally pricing in a larger drop off are fair, but what is pretty proven at this stage is almost nothing else moves NFL money lines. It is just QB status. Teams swapping out coaches or losing star pass rushers or star receivers barely registers. It is basically Quarterbacks. That is what moves the lines.

To claim this board blames Josh is to intentionally spread a mistruth. I'm sorry, it just is. And the bolded shows you will never take part in any conversation openly. Every player, every coach, every owner, every person can be questioned, criticised, debated and analysed. That is sports. To say one person, whoevet they are, is above that is utterly nonsensical.

You think TBD blames Allen????? Are you for real?

Whoever Mahomes plays for would be the Superbowl favourites.

You don't need scheme to know where your gap is on a simple outside zone run.

He is nowhere near ready if last Saturday is anything to go by.

Totally agree. And yea, Ed is clearly the 2nd best player on the team IMO. It isn't even close.

Top end talent and coaching are similar right now in terms of bigger gap. But it is proven over time it is Quarterbacks that move NFL betting lines more than anything else. And wider public opinion is NOT on your horse. Mahomes would move lines if he moved teams even if the other team was getting Allen or Burrow or Stroud or whoever the other way.

The Bills lost the turnover battle 3-0 and won the game.

Would be cool. Might happen post new stadium, but I imagine there are a few other places ahead in the queue

Did they? Those 215 yards passing and 25 yards rushing on 7 attempts were not the reason that game was at all close.

No, but he is strictly slot only.

They looked like they were observing though as in a "let's see how this goes" from what I saw. Maybe the photos / video gave a false impression.

Agree, I was just adding useful context. I do think Kincaid's usage was quite different between the two OCs. But I am totally on board with they have to get Kincaid down the field.

I'd completely forgotten about him until his name popped up. He was an important piece on those Clemson teams. Did he go undrafted?

If that is true that is a poor reflection on the Bills training staff. Because there is no way if you have a guy with a suspect torn bicep doing a push up to test it. There is a very widely accepted squeeze test that you do instantly and it generally gives you a pretty good guide. If he has torn his bicep the training staff have some serious questions to answer.

I think if Milano is out it is between Spector and Williams for the job. Williams is the more natural Will but the trusted Spector more at the end of last year and he has done some of both.