GunnerBill

Tee is more important in that offense than people give him credit for.

TF did Mahomes see there?

Richardson is hopeless in the drop back passing game.

I that Cardinals win will end up looking pretty decent.

Jim Harbaugh is such a cheat. I can't stand him. Pressurising officials already. Horrible man. And they changed their mind as a result. Horrible call.

No it doesn't. It shows that he goes for it when he should. The reason we don't go for it more is we face fewer 4th downs. Same as the 9ers. Taking the bald numbers as you are on attempts is of no use for making an assessment.

That is a bad way of measuring. You have to measure the % of 4th downs faced. The Panthers attempted the most 4th downs last year. You know why? They faced the most. The 49ers and Bills attempted among the fewest.... again, not hard to figure why. Thanks. I was looking for this and couldn't lay my hands on it. Point proven.

Your perception is wrong. McDermott has consistently been one of the most aggressive 4th down decision makers.

Through two games the Bills best player not name Josh Allen has been Christian Benford. Targeted 10 times, he has given up 4 receptions for 25 yards and has an interception.

While showing some urgency.

And that comes down to the players as well. Do we have the personnel to separate downfield? Through two weeks I don't see much downfield separation on tape.

Yea that was the falling back ball out the Shakir one 2nd half, right? I didn't get to that one yesterday in detail but think it is fair to say that was a throw very few humans can make.

Yes, but you said every. It isn't every one of those games. The first 9ers Superbowl, 13 seconds etc.. he didn't make the key plays in those games. But no question he has been a difference maker for them plenty of times in the post season.

Its a Red Zone early then settle in for Bengals - Chiefs plan I think.

Of the three roll out / improvs I saw in my breakdown of the first 3 drives, two were on Josh. One for dropping the snap. The other he missed Shakir wide open in the middle. The one he made the superman play to Johnson fair enough. That is Josh making something from nothing. Yea McDaniel is an innovator. He isn't suited to being a Head Coach. I'd consider hiring him though if I needed an OC and he became available.

I think what is yet to be tested is can they win a true shootout. A game where it is clear at half time you might need to score every time you touch the ball second half and the run is taken out of it a bit and they have to be a volume passing offense. We haven't seen that. Houston is the week I think we might.

See when I watch the Lions what I see from Ben Johnson is exactly how you have described Brady. I don't think Johnson is an innovator particularly. His run scheme is a bit more creative but his pass scheme is pretty basic. What he does exceptionally well is he coaches to the skillset of the players he has. He doesn't ask St Brown to be an outside, vertical receiver. He doesn't ask Goff to make corner route throws into tight windows between safety and corner. He doesn't ask Jahmyr Gibbs to run between the tackles (or Montgomery really to run outside them). He leans into what his talent does well. If Williams is truly breaking out as another weapon they will be even better because he has a skillset Johnson hasn't had so far.

I can't remember a championship team though with so little toughness. They always have a mix of flash and substance. I don't think the Fins have that balance right.

And a horrible offensive line. And the middle of their defense - DT, ILB, S - is soft as *****. The two edge rushers you mention only wanna rush the passer and don't want to play the run. I think it's been built entirely for flash. And that doesn't work IMO. As for a top 10 roster? Maybe. If they are they are bottom end of the top 10. I'd have them in the next batch to be honest 11-15

Yea I am fine with Von being between 30% and 45% of snaps each week. Use those snaps sensibly.

Yea they are a badly built team IMO. All speed and razzle dazzle not much meat and potatoes. Letting Wilkins (their only toughness) walk was a mistake.

Yea, every QB just fails to see the odd one every week. But was a nice design Josh just didn't see it. As you say that will have been a "how the ***** did I not see that?" moment when he looked at the ipad. On the receivers overall the two guys who are getting the most separation are Shakir and Hollins. Without doubt. Hollins is a sneak good route runner. He isn't Stefon Diggs but he is precise in his footwork and his breaks. Impressed with him tbh. Shakir does a lot of underneath and middle if the field stuff obviously but is good at finding spaces which I remember as a rookie he struggled with. He would run past the open zone a ton. Not now, he has it buttoned down. Coleman is not getting much separation. Admittedly running the tougher routes outside but at the moment I think they are going to have to rely on him winning 1v1 contested catches.

Yea Samuel has his guy beat if Allen gets it out in front. But I would wanna see Samuel fight back better for the ball to try and draw a flag and his size possibly limits him from that.

The All22 is now out and I wanted to go back and look at the design and whether Bills receivers were getting open / being schemed open at the same frequency as Sunday. I'd say not quite overall, but there still weren't many plays where receivers were blanketed. The Bills aren't getting tons of guys open on the same play but they are finding ways to get 1 or 2 people into space to be options for their Quarterback. And the pass protection is good! Sometimes Josh could show a tick more patience in the pocket before he starts to move, but also the WRs have to try and separate faster, especially on downfield routes where I think some of the limitations of that group are showing up. I think given what we have at receiver though the offensive scheming so far is pretty decent. Obviously tougher tests to come. Anyway, I've got through the first four drives, conclusions below: First drive: - 1st & 10 - designed quick hitter to Kincaid for 9 yards; - 1st & 10 - designed quick hitter to Kincaid for 8 yards; - 2nd & 2 - incomplete pass - play action roll out to the right, Dolphins saw it coming the whole way think in the end Allen throws away smartly as opposed to trying to fit in to Coleman, or Kincaid who in any event was short of the sticks; - 4th & 3 - TOUCHDOWN - beautifully designed pick play to Cook out of backfield for 17 yard TD. Second drive: - 2nd & 7 - short pass to Shakir short of the sticks for 6 yards - nobody else open but excellent protection. - 3rd & 1 - incomplete pass - Allen drops the snap, Hollins runs a really nice in route middle of the field is wide open if Allen doesn't drop the ball it's a simple completion for 10 yards with some RAC possibility with a well placed ball. Allen eventually tries to force it to him later in the route after recovering his fumble, ball batted down. Third drive: - 2nd & 8 - Allen scrambles for 2 yards - Dolphins have an unguarded rusher off the left edge on the blitz. Once Josh evades him there is a chance to Knox middle of the field who is wide open and Allen does look at it but it would have been a bit of an across his body throw and probably not a risk needed at that stage, so he pump fakes and runs for 2. 3rd & 6 - short pass to Shakir, 11 yards and first down - Protection is great and three Bills receivers win their assignment here. Shakir is probably the first to uncover and Josh takes what they give him and the first down, a split second later Kincaid uncovers on a corner route and there is a short throw to Hollins in the flat right at the sticks which might have been a first down had neither of the others been open. 2nd & 7 - incomplete pass - Josh goes deep to Samuel in the endzone, incomplete. Was probably the right risk. Shakir was open underneath but Samuel has a step on the DB outside in pure 1v1. Allen leaves the pass a little short and the DB uses his bigger frame to ensure Samuel can't come back for the football. If the throw is out in front it may be a touchdown, but also does show some of the limitations of Samuel outside. 3rd & 7 - incomplete pass - Allen misses Shakir who runs a post route from the slot and ends up wide open. Protection is good, not sure why Josh tries to move out to his right to try and hit Ty Johnson in the the flat, poor throw but he probably isn't making the 1st anyway. Shakir, had he seen him and hit him, might be a touchdown. Fourth drive: 1st & 10 - designed screen to Davis loses a yard - don't love this design Allen fades back too far in the pocket and by the time Davis gets the ball he is a good 6 or 7 yards behind the sticks. 2nd & 11 - complete to Shakir, 21 yards, first down and 15 yard penalty on Poyer - Shakir uncovers. He is the only open guy but he does have Coleman 1 on 1 outside to the right if he had wanted to try a jump ball. 2nd & 16 - complete to Shakir, 4 yards - didn't have anything deep down the field. Both Shakir and Samuel separated but both were only getting 4 or 5 yards back. 3rd & 12 - complete to Ty Johnson for 33 yards - did have Keon running a corner route to the left who found the zone between the corner and the safety and would have had the first down had he gone that way, but Josh was looking to his right the whole time and made the one "superman" play of the day.

He did in the gameball thread in fairness to him. He acknowledged this was primarily a coaching win.