GunnerBill

Yes. And so will everyone in this thread.

Yea but the way the game was going affected the way the Chiefs played. They were happy playing small ball. As soon as the Ravens got within a score and he needed to go up top, Mahomes went up top and put it to bed. The Ravens D did play better than the Bills D last week (was a lot healthier too) but KC also play differently on offense when they know #17 is getting the ball on the other side compared to Lamar.

I haven't seen the second half. I went to bed at half time. It will take some time to shift the image of who he was the 3 weeks his three elite players - Williams, Deebo and CMC were all missing. He didn't just look worse he looked like a backup. I didn't like his performance last week. He threw 3 absolute ducks that should have been intercepted. Green Bay hold any of them its goodnight Vienna. Will watch the 2nd half from last night later.

That he actually understands playing QB in the NFL and how what might work on a chalkboard isn't necessarily easy to replicate in the game. He understands the QB's perspective. That is valuable to a playcaller who was a small school walk on DB.

No. They want an OC with the skillset he has.

I have explained why the hiring makes sense. The OC job in Cleveland is to be in sync with your QB having played the position (no coincidence AVP had too) and to be an extra pairs of eyes and ears who sees it the same way. For Dorsey it is a good re-set job and a chance to get exposed to a system he hasn't really run before.

Quite. Helps if daddy has a good NFL surname too.

Interesting. He won't call plays, it won't be his scheme. He will have a role in game plan but he is there as basically an extra pair of eyes and ears for the Quarterback and Head Coach - as a guy who has played the position in the NFL. When you think about it in that context it makes some sense.

Sorry my mistake I was talking Marvin Lewis. Schotty in San Diego lost to the Sanchize and Pennington (bad) and then to Ben, Brady and Manning (all of which he was outmanned at QB). I'd have to look at Cleveland. Before my time.

About a dozen.

I mean he lost to Matt Schaub, TJ Yates, the Sanchize and a game in which Landry Jones played QB for a chunk of the 2nd half. Not like he lost to a ton of great QBs.

Not for me. He is inconsistent. I'd trust Ed Oliver more in big moments. Hunter is dynamic but he isn't a guaranteed show up in the big moments guy.

He is done in the NFL.

Sunday was not his best game. Granted. Joe Thuney is absolutely elite, but Oliver was not at his best. I think he played well in the other two KC playoff defeats although if all you do is box score scout you won't have seen it. He was bad in last year's Cincy game but he was hurt in that game.

Oliver. But otherwise I agree with your assessment of the major issue. Coaching isn't perfect. But we have lots of good players and not enough real top end talent.

Huge drive.

I think it is probably the right appointment, but at the same time this was not an exhaustive search.

Yea I think better than the other fast guys but agree it is key for him. Sorry meant to quote the post I was referring to. Must have deleted the quote. Legette.

Yea I'd have Love 2 and Purdy 3. If you said you can take any QB from the NFC to start a franchise with today who you taking it is Jordan Love and I am not even pausing before I answer. Otherwise your tiers are pretty much where I am

I think you are slightly too high on Purdy and way too low on Love. Otherwise I agree.

He would be great on tv if they got him doing an actual Xs abd Os show in longer format say on a Tuesday Night breaking down the weekend's key games. That would be absolute must see TV for anyone interested in the why and not just the what. If they try and shoehorn him in as an announcer of half time 2 sentence merchant it will be a disaster.

Yea I don't think he is going to run in the 4.2s but he is legitimately fast. He is more a build up speed guy so I don't think the 40 necessarily will showcase how fast he is. But he is going to run plenty fast enough to be legit size / speed prospect. I'm super high on him.

I am fine with Detroit or Baltimore. No to Kansas City and San Francisco.

Not well under. 99 in the regular season. He has had less value on offense this year than in previous years. But yes, he is a proper full back and in terms of how many guys would I rank above him as fullbacks.... It's Ricard, Jusczyk and Burton (Denver). I reckon there are about 10-12 teams I'd say keep and use a fullback - it is mainly Shanahan stretch zone teams: San Francisco, Miami, Minnesota, Houston, Atlanta and then E-P teams: Denver, Las Vegas, Buffalo, New Orleans and then Baltimore who kinda fit into that category as well. I'm probably missing a couple. Normally you'd add New England to that list but they didn't carry one this year I don't think.

Dorian is clearly not ready. He can't line up in the right place. Guys are having to wave him into position every other snap. The idea that he was the answer is totally for the birds.