GunnerBill

But it is flat our bizarre that they ran plays against the Bills in the AFCCG that they hadn't run all season long. Five of them on offense including the one that finally iced the game. Maybe they did on D as well I don't know I only have the number for their O. And then when they couldn't move the ball basically at all for a half they ran zero new plays against the Eagles in the Superbowl. I am not claiming conspriacy or anything but far from playing the Chiefs being the Bills Superbowl it actually feels the other way around. The Chiefs put more effort into beating us than they did into trying to win a third consecutive Lombardi. They definitely outcoached us in the AFCCG (although they out executed us too). Probably their biggest coaching win vs us in the playoffs since the first AFCCG. But it was like they threw everything at the Bills and had nothing left for Philly.

That in itself is a worry. Because Johnston is awful.

Agree with this. Palmer is a way better option than Cooks or Hollins at this stage. As I said I'd have been in on Brown, but I acknowledge he is riskier and the Bills were looking for a legit floor because they have nothing else at the spot. They got themselves here when they wouldn't go up a few extra picks for Jordan Addison or Brian Thomas or when they passed on the likes of Christian Watson for Kaiir Elam (I know Watson has been a walking injury but who knows if that happens here, he has been productive when on the field).

That is a very good point......

Yea, agreed, it is. I actually would have been partial to a flier on Dyami. I loved him coming out and I do think opportunity was part of the problem. Washington never really seemed to trust him. No doubt they had their reasons for that, but he really did pop at the end of last year. Maybe a fluke? Definitely possible. But if it wasn't and the light has just finally gone on he is better than any of the other FA WRs. I'm fine with Palmer. It is what it is. The market is horrible and he is at least a legit outside receiver in the NFL even if he kinda feels like the baseline of what the Bills need is rather than anything more.

I am not sure corner is that deep personally. I think you have Hunter, Barron and Johnson in the first tier (plus Revel on the fringe but with major medical red flags). Then you have Amos, Hariston, Morrison (major injury red flags), Thomas in the second tier, plus Porter who is kinda of tier 2 and a half. After those 9 guys there are not a ton of guys I'd feel confident in saying would come in and beat out a vet like Dane Jackson who knows the system as rookies. Are there some guys who can and will improve past Dane with some development and time on task? Sure. But if the Bills best available at a premium position in round 1 isn't a corner then IMO they should try and move up in round two to get one of those guys (or find another still unsigned vet on the market). Otherwise more likely than not Dane Jackson will start the season opposite Christian Benford.

It is sort of the market though. Gabe got $24m guaranteed from the Jags last year and they are similar tier of player IMO. They are guys that are low end #2s outside who you'd ideally love to have as your 3rd outside receiver in the rotation. As to why the Bills are having to fish in that market for a semi-proven outside receiver..... the answer lies in their under investment in the position at draft time between Diggs trade and Keon selection and then question marks about whether Keon is really a true outside, vertical threat guy.

Fair enough. I don't necessarily think you are wrong on the athleticism bit. But I do think it is a significant problem for him creating separation on boundary routes and it limits his ceiling IMO. Using the basketball skills in the redzone - absolutely - but elsewhere that same technique is hurting him.

My biggest problem with them.... well let me be more specific, with Erik, is that he is incredibly thin skinned to legitimate disagreement. It's like their narrative is the only narrative.

Ahhhhh now Erik's video last week defending Groot's dreadful performance in the AFCCG makes a lot more sense...... Shills gotta shill.

My view on pick #30 is they should take the guy they think has the best chance to be a high end difference maker at a premium position - Edge, WR, CB - within 2 years. I think elite talent is a bigger need on this team than any single position.

Yea I thought watching the Franklin tape last year that Tez was gonna be at least an early day 2 guy. He popped every time you watched the film. He was the best receiver on that team. But his 2024 tape was less impressive and his run at the combine was really disappointing. Sometimes you think smaller guys are running faster than they are because of the perpetual motion and low centre of gravity. He was in my top 10 at one point but he is I think WR15 for me now.

Yuck. The idea of rubbing anyone's feet is frankly, disgusting.

I promise you nothing would make me vomit quicker.

It is partly his footwork - especially off the line - that is right. But it is largely that he plays to contact. He wants to feel the DB and play off that. It means he gives up leverage constantly, closes his own spaces and ends up reactive instead of proactive in his routes. I am sure it is his basketball background coming out but that is a concern because it means it is probably deeply ingrained in him. There is a lot of unlearning for him to do. He has to completely change the way he runs downfield routes if he ever wants to separate. It doesn't happen when he is in the slot and gets a free release. In those situations he dictates where he is going and makes defenders react to him. But if he is lined up against a DB outside he looks for that DB and plays off the contact. Unless he fixes it his ceiling is limited.

Oh I think they will contend. I just think this is the year they lose a close one somewhere in the post season.

Before last draft we were tied 32nd.

I don't think KC makes the Superbowl in 2025. I am not saying the Bills will but last time after a bashing in the Superbowl they didn't make it back the next year.

Excellent post. Agree with every word.

Oh he can definitely improve. But he would have to totally re-learn his technique in running downfield routes outside to be what the Bills need. Honestly what I see is 3 years of him giving WR2/3 production and then he leaves in free agency for a Gabe Davis type deal when corrected for inflation on a team with a rookie contract QB.

Josh has only had 3. Rico was before Josh. He had Dabes for 4 seasons, then Dorsey for 1.5 seasons now Brady for 1.5 seasons going into 2025.

They have only hired one rookie OC - Ken Dorsey. Rico, Dabes and Joe B had all been NFL OCs before taking the role here. Don't disagree on the general quality of their skill guys though.

Yea it was the weekend before FA opened. They did Milano, Daryl Williams and Feliciano in a flurry.

I think he will go in the 2nd round. Probably within the first 10 to 15 picks of it.

Yea I also think there is a world where Pittsburgh, the Jets or Vegas jumps back into the end of round 1 for him How very fancy!