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Neither was good last year. I'd say Baltimore Tre was probably better than Douglas but LA Tre was worse. Tre is one of my favourite ever Bills. I hope being back in familiar surroundings can revive him. It can happen. Darius Slay just had a roll back the years season after looking cooked in 2023. If the Bills are saying "we are fine at corner, we have Tre" then I don't like it. Otherwise I class it as a shot worth taking.

Giving up a 1st for an extra day 2 pick this year is nonsensical. You never trade a 1st for anything other than a special player. Whether that is a vet you trade it away for OR a prospect you think is special. Trading it just for more day 2 ammo is a crazy idea.

He is. Aaron Rodgers' biggest problem has always been Aaron Rodgers.

Partly because they are one of the least concerned with positional value. In the last 5 or 6 drafts they have spent firsts on safety, center, tight end and off ball linebacker.

Yea Collins window opens around the Bills first 2nd rounder and lasts to mid 3rd IMO.

I don't think the consensus is miles out. Beane isn't either. He drafts very few busts. That isn't the issue. Its stars that are lacking from our drafting and maybe that needs a bit less consensus thinking (not saying it does just asking the question)?

But he did that last year and still blew the evaluation. That's my point. I think questionable talent evaluation is the bigger issue than strategy.

We know the Chiefs had him as their next guy after McDuffie. The GM admitted thst to the Athletic.

I agree his first round picks always feel need driven. But the bigger issue remains evaluation IMO.

It's almost always a mix of the two. They definitely misevaluated him. 100%. But often when you need X position you end up comvincing yourself that the guys who might be options at the spot are better than they are. So they misevaluated him in the first place and then he ends up with another grade boost because he played a spot they had a huge hole. Beane's line was he was the last first round grade. I'm sure that is true. How he got thar grade is the interesting bit.

Honestly, it's probably Ezeiruaku at #30. It's not that I don't think he is a decent player but to me it would be a repeat of last year, a low ceiling use of our first selection.

I still love Scourton. I don't think edge is still in play at #30 though sadly.

Trust me Fergy's board is bigger than that. He always has the biggest boards. Huge.

I saw it earlier. Wouldn't mind that. Starks is a top 10 guy in this class for me. Don't love Farmer but Revel and Swinson at those spots are great value. Like Smith late and Bartholomew is one of @gonzo1105's sleeper guys and I trust his judgment! Would prefer a different receiver. Lane to me is a slot guy

It is a good point on age. He is just (in March) turned 23 at least Amos. Kincaid turned 24 during his rookie season. That hasn't typically been their MO. Tremaine Edmunds is still only 15.

I don't think they have had Grant in for a visit have they? And interestingly we haven't seen any of the most likely round 1 DTs in. The guys they have had in are Norman-Lott, Williams, Sanders, Walker, Robinson.... more day 2 and 3 guys. That doesn't have to mean anything. They met Grant and Nolen at the Combine (as well as Farmer and Collins). But as I said earlier Kincaid apart this regime has had every first round pick it has made in for a top 30 visit (Rousseau's being virtual because of covid). They are one of the more consistent teams in that regard. They have had all those expected late first / early 2nd corners in - Amos, Hariston, Revel, Morrison. It's tea leaves reading but I think the signals are pointing very much to corner at 30.

I can't comment on Levy as a coach. Before my time.

In fairness I think we hit on by far the most likely pick at #30 the first time around and as a result he was barred from selection in version 2.0

Year Grier surviving this time around is bad news for McDaniel IMO. It woulda been pretty easy to blame the GM for some of their roster issues, fire him and let McDaniel help choose a new GM. After all he is well above .500 as Head Coach (28-23 in the regular season) and his two playoff losses have come to the two best AFC teams of this era - KC and Buffalo. The fact he held onto Grier a year screams "I want to clean house but it is too early to can McDaniel so I'll wait a year."

I didn't know that story, but I respect McDaniel a ton for that. Kinda had a similar journey in soccer in that I played a pretty low level of semi-pro soccer when I was still living up north and when I moved to London and went to summer try outs for my local semi-pro club which was a couple of levels higher up the pyramid I made it from like 100 guys through 3 rounds of cuts and when they did the cut to the final 20 man squad to start the season the manager pulled me and said "to be honest ability wise I'd have cut you two rounds ago but you caught my eye for how you communicate and the quality of the information you pass on to other players, so I am going to sign you but I don't really want you to play, I want you to coach and be there as a break glass in case of emergency player." I was 24 and at the time the youngest coach in the top 4 tiers of the non-league game.

He didn't run because he would be bottom 10 percentile in terms of speed for outside corners in the NFL. I even wonder if a team drafts him then moves him to safety.

Yea, the Bills offense was moving the ball with Trubisky (he isn't great but he can play at a serviceable level with starters around him) so McDermott had to take action. Mike White was laughably bad.

This is what it comes down to. When you are about to enter a two-year tear down you can afford to be a bit more patient on it because you are guaranteed other shots at QBs. If they like Shedeur they should take him. If they don't think shouldn't. I think Cleveland and the Giants should take a Quarterback almost whatever happens. I don't think they WILL but they should.

Have we? Hadn't seen that. I like Simmons as a late day 3 1T option. I think he is exactly the sort of guy you take rounds 6 or 7 and he spends his rookie contract as at least your backup 1T. Which avoids Beano chucking $4m at it every March.

And has been on a 30 visit. The Bills are one of the teams for whom that really matters with the first rounder. 2017 - White visited 2018 - Allen and Edmunds visited 2019 - Oliver visited 2020 - no pick (Diggs trade) 2021 - Rousseau (had a zoom, no visits, covid) 2022 - Elam visited 2023 - the one anomaly - Kincaid did not visit 2024 - Coleman visited