GunnerBill

No. And it has been the case multiple years.

Terrific player. Great career. Good luck in retirement.

I'd deduct Murray but accept the other five.

He might be a top 5 QB in the NFC though....

But they would still have to demonstrate that it is actually having a discriminatory effect. And I am not sure how they could. It is not, at the moment, damaging white coaches. It is damaging teams with white coaches and a team is not a legal person so can't be discriminated against on the basis of race. I don't rule out you could get to that point in due course if you have evidence of teams systematically seeking to "game the system" by promoting less experienced and prima facie less suitable black candidates into those pipeline positions I mentioned earlier of more qualified / suitable white counter parts. Of course the Flores law suit alleged that is essentially what happens now with white candidates preferred but that is a very hard fight to win. One person's over promoted newbie is another person's young high flier. Demeco Ryans was promoted quickly. Nobody is arguing he wasn't deserving.

Obviously he got hurt late in the yesr but before that he was still an elite 1T and one of the best run defenders up front in the entire league

Yea you would need someone actually discriminated against to have standing to challenge it.

In order to prove that the picks for minority hires policy (which I dislike because it is a gimmick not an actual way of addressing the problem it is supposed to be helping fix) equates to an employer discriminating on the basis of race you would likely have to show that there are employees being discriminated. To get there I think you'd have to get to a point where white coaches and execs can argue that they are not getting hired into those 2nd tier positions - OC, DC, Assit. GM, Director of Player Personnel - because teams are specifically hiring minorities into those jobs in the hope of earning a draft pick or two. At the moment I don't think that argument is made. One would assume if we ever got close to the point where it were the NFL would abandon its scheme because it would have served its purpose. Proving that a team is disadvantaged (by having fewer draft picks) isn't enough. A team isn't a legal person and can't be held to possess personal characteristics such as race or ethnicity.

I am not getting into whether the formula is right or wrong. But it is what it is.

I think the drop of was a mix of defenses keying in, him being banged up and losing maybe half a step and Josh missed him on two of three deep balls where he was wide open. Hit a couple of those it makes a big difference to the numbers.

Yes a full round. There are no half rounds. Keep thinking it is a conspiracy though if it helps you feel better.

Well clearly nobody knows the formula as well as they thought but there are some things that are very simple about it: 1. You lose a minority coordinator to a HC position or senior personnel guy to a GM position and you are awarded two 3rd round comp picks in the subsequent two drafts. 2. The remaining picks are broadly issued by AAV contract value of free agents lost. The 49ers lost Jimmy G to a the richest FA contract given out last spring. The only things that are different from the projections from Over The Cap who explain the formula very clearly and do a great job with projections are Jimmy G and Tremaine being assigned 4th round value instead of 3rd round value which was projected. Everything else was exactly as those who understand the way that formula has been applied the past few years expected. So when people say "how the hell has San Francisco got all these picks?" The answer is they llst a minority coordinator to be a HC, they lost a starting QB in free agency and they lost a bunch of other qualifying role players.

Yea its a pass from me too.

No but they did lose a minority coordinator to a HC position and a starting Quarterback to free agency. That explains their 3rd and their 4th and shouldn't surprise anyone. Some of their later picks do seem to be from teams overpaying former 49ers in free agency at the mid range.

It's a really interesting point about the safety market and the relationship to the way teams are defending. I hadn't thought of it that way but it makes sense. Let's see what the market is like next week for the plethora of guys who have hit free agency. On wide receivers 6 is the record in round one. I think that is right about where it will come in this year, I could maybe see 7 but 6 feels like the spot. But 13 is the record for the first two rounds and I think that record definitely goes. It would not stun me if 15 of the first 64 picks are receivers. It is one of the stronger positions in the class and as you say teams increasingly need them. EDIT: just had a count up I currently have 10 WRs inside my top 50 grade wise and 13 in my top 64.

This is totally how I feel on Mitchell. I just don't know what the thing is that makes me go "wow you gotta have him." He is a solid prospect. He does a lot of stuff well. I just don't know where the special is beyond his hands are really good. I would be fine with him as the pick but it isn't one that would like really excite me.

Normally a miss that bad kills you. They deserve some credit for finding Purdy but there is huge luck in him turning out as he has. In the last three drafts worth of day 1 and 2 picks they have got a starting guard, a kicker and a backup pass rusher. That isn't great.

As I have said previously it depends how they really feel inside the building about Diggs. If they think they will get Diggs back to his best then I agree. If they genuinely think there are signs of decline I think they need to add a vet.

I get the thinking. I just think where we sit in the draft now guaranteeing getting two capable of having an impact is tough. I wouldn't overpay for a FA vet. But I'd be looking to add one if I could.

Having had a quick look at the DT class Neville Gallimore is interesting to me. He is more of an Ed Oliver backup option than a 1T to play alongside him. But I quite liked him coming out of Oklahoma. He has had a reasonably disappointing four years as a Cowboy, but there have been some flashes of his penetrative ability as a pass rusher. He is unlikely to get gobbled up early. You can probably sign him for a $1.5-2.5m type deal which wouldn't affect the comp formula. There might still be some untapped ability there.

This makes the most sense of any of the possibilities.

Agree. That is where I think the run comes. I am not sure there is going to be a huge run between the top 10 and Dallas at #24. In fact I can see only one going in that spell. But from Dallas at #24 to the middle of round two.... that could be a serious run.

First choices: 1. Kamren Curl 2. Darnell Mooney Backup otions: 1. Julian Blackmon 2. DJ Chark They will need a vet 1T as well but I haven't really looked in depth at that market.

My take on what Beane should now do is absolutely 100% stand pat at #28. Do not trade up. Take the best wide receiver available unless someone unexpected has fallen to there. Then at the end of the 2nd there is potentially room to move back. I have found in a lot of the sims I have done that is the spot where I end up feeling like there is much of a muchness talent wise. If they were to say slide back 10 spots with the Giants (I understand we have some connections there) in exchange for the Giants 4th rounder (might have to throw in one of our 6ths just to even the value out) then we could package that extra 4th with one our 5ths to get back into the bottom end of round 3. So we'd end up with: #28 Two 3rds (one early, one late) Two 4ths Two 5ths Two 6ths One 7th

Edmunds missed 2 games. But he did still play 92% of defensive snaps for the Bears so if that was what knocked him down that feels like an incredibly high threshold. And yea, if it was that Jimmy G (also a 4th) being a pick ahead after playing far less is odd.