GunnerBill

I disagree strongly. I think he is way better than Gabe. He is a 1st round grade and WR4 on my board. I do think there is some inefficiency in his release that can be tidied up and I agree that while he is fast he isn't sudden he is a long strider. But he separates plenty well enough at all levels of the field for me. Indeed against man coverage he separates at a better rate than most of the class. And then he is terrific attacking the football in the air. I'd happily take him at #28 and not look back. I do accept that the one year production and the age are legit concerns, but the tape is really good IMO. But I accept I am higher than the consensus. He won't go round 1 I don't think. But I am very confident he is going to be really good in the NFL. Basically this is what I see on film too.

Congrats to Dane. More than I expected him to get if those numbers are true. He is a lower end serviceable CB2 in the NFL and a guy you are very pleased to have as your "first guy in off the bench" type depth. If those numbers are right that is in 6th/7th round comp pick territory as well for those still counting along at home re comp picks.

Yea that's a no-brainer deal for a guy who played well last year in limited action and is a core STer on a unit where they have lost two key guys.

Except with a totally different gameplan than the one responsible for helping him win that MVP.... however much we all disagree with that award more fundamentally.

Pass on Williams. He is a slightly better Gabe Davis but the gap between them is not much.

Yes, sorry I meant that it wasn't a slam dunk that they pick up the option then sign after next season. I agree they will pick up the option. I think most likely they extend him after 2024. But a play out the 5th year isn't impossible.

We met him at the Combine or maybe the Senior Bowl too. Bears watching. I'm with you. 4th rounder.

Yea I don't think he is very good tbh. Never have.

Didn't know he was still in the league. This should be vet minimum - hopefully it is just a fill out the 90 move (they did need some receivers for OTAs etc) and he doesn't make the roster.

I don't agree with him, but I think there is a germ of a point there. I'm not advocating being weak against the run or building a weak defensive line. I am saying seeking to build a dominant run stopping defense to force teams to be "one dimensional" which 15 years ago was absolutely something teams sought to do is no longer a winning strategy against the best Quarterbacks. Exactly.

Yea I liked him as a slot coming out. He was my top "slot only" type that year. Doesn't make a ton of sense though given they have Taron and in our defense he couldn't play the kinda hybrid nicklel/SAM role that Taron plays. If he sits out on the market sure I could see it later as a depth move on a vet min type deal. Didn't Von only break on actual Day 1 as well? I was at Cheltenham for the racing when it broke so that means it was start of the league year rather than tampering period. It broke like 2 hours before the league year officially opened but it was a day 1 of the league year drop.

5th year option, extend after next year is the most likely outcome. But not a slam dunk.

I don't go as far as having a bad run defense is better.... but I do think there is a grain of truth. The days of "run and stop the run" are over. And if you build a really dominant run defense to the point teams barely even try against you then that is good against teams with average and bad Quarterbacks but it isn't great when you play the good Quarterbacks.... because you want those teams to get cute and waste downs rushing.

Agreed. Ed and Taron are the last two levers to pull. Can we release Taylor Rapp and sign a proper safety? Just pretend it was all a bad dream?

At the prices I like AJE better. If you swapped the contracts round I'd have been fine with a flier on YGM. AJ is a better rusher. YGM is probably a bit better rounded.

We needed bodies there but I like the 4 guys we have got. Hopefully this is very cheap.

Ah okay. So you disliked the spelling?

@HurlyBurly51 - you dislike his name?

Can't be mad. He was still an above average safety in 2023 and the Bills let him go. He was always gonna play somewhere.

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They didnt. The 3rd was for Ryans. They got a 4th for Jimmy G.

That was suxh a bizzare gameplan.

Think that was probably beyond us.

See I'd take AJE over YGM.

It is just he is the kind of guy who usually gets overpaid in free agency - especially in a thinnish group. Good deal for the Bills.