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It was this regime. Not this franchise.

This list isn't correct. Scourton visited. I hadn't heard Thomas or Grant did but wouldn't surprise me on either.

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I wouldn't hate it. You are missing the joke...

Amos is only just older than 22 though. He turned 23 in March. Kincaid turned 24 during his rookie season. So I agree it is a bit of a diversion from their normal process but not a massive one. I do basically think it is Amos, Hariston or Scourton at #30. Agree first 2nd rounder I expect a DT Agree after that it is BPA at those spots.... Swinson and Royals would be the most exciting of those options.

I don't think that is a ridiculous opinion. I am fine with the contract they have given to Shakir. It ended up being $13.25m AAV on the new deal, and because the money is spread across 5 active contract years (the final year of his rookie deal as well as the four new years) it actually means Shakir's average cap cost over the next five years is $11.25m. I don't think that equates to paying him to be more than what his skills suggest he can be. However, I do think Shakir is what he is. He's a good slot receiver. My pre-season prediction for yards and touchdowns last season was off by 1 yard. He is going to carry on being a guy who gets you 800 yards or so and 4 to 6 touchdowns. He might have a career 1,000 yard season in there somewhere but he is a complimentary piece not a featured piece. I wouldn't have moved Khalil to let Coleman play. I agree with you about big slot being Keon's best spot I was saying that way before the Bills drafted him but I don't think he is a guy you move other guys out of the way to play. As for passing on McConkey, I've said this before, I don't really believe in drafting pure slots in round 1. I think Worthy is different he can play outside. I'd have taken him ahead of Keon. But what is done is done.

I have been pro trade ups the last two years. Wanted to go up for Addison in 2023 and BTJ last year. I'm a bit more circumspect this year. I just don't feel like this is the draft for it. If a Matthew Golden slides a bit, with his combination of speed and route running, or one of the more explosive edge guys then maybe. I think those are the skillsets harder to find later in the draft. Otherwise I think this is more a let it come to you in round 1 draft. Round 2 is where I might get more aggressive.

Yea I am just not that sure I agree. Clearly there are some players I would be interested in the Bills getting who likely aren't available to them at #30 I jusy don't see a big drop off between those and the guys who will be. I've speculated on the small trade up to the Rams spot if say Matthew Golden made it there.... or maybe James Pearce made it there (who knows if he is on their board). I'd do a bigger trade up for Barron too but I don't think he is the Bills type so I kind of dismiss it.

No quite that high because I think edge and safety are in the mix there too. But I think CB and DT as 2 of the 3 picks are close to 99.9%.

There is no way TJ or Jaden get there. Totally impossible.

I think @FireChans explained. He was looking at early picks vs consensus. Day 3 consensus is basically meaningless.

He is missing Scourton. Confirmed by Shefty.

Definitely! How many rounds?

I've moved him up in mine. He is a guy I'd be willing to bang the table for late first.

He is stiff on the A&M tape. Watch his Purdue tape. Dude is fluid. I put last year down to A&M usage. He is better than that.

Scourton and Stewart do not have limited athleticism. On corners - I do think that is the most likely pick. If I was ranking my expectations it would be: 1. Amos 2. Hariston 3. Scourton

One other thought..... free safety?

Depends how much is incentives. I doubt it is a lot more than vet min minus incentives.

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Okay here is where I am at in terms of piecing things together..... I think we can narrow the Bills pick at #30 (or shortly thereafter with a small trade back) down to: Corner: Trey Amos, Maxwell Hariston, Shavon Revel Edge: Nic Scourton, Shermar Stewart DTackle: Tyleik Williams Those guys have all be in on 30 visits and with the exception of Kincaid (who I remain convinced was a backup plan at the last minute when Addison went) this regime has always used their first round pick on a guy they have had in for a 30 visit. Add to that none of Harmon, Nolen and Grant have been in and I think DTackle is not their plan at #30. I added Williams to this list because I think if they did shuffle back into the top of the 2nd, say half a dozen picks, then he could be in play there. I think Shermar Stewart will be gone. I think Revel is an injury risk the type of which they have tended to avoid in the first round so really I think Amos, Hariston and Scourton are the three most likely Bills selections at #30. It will be one of those three guys IMO. EDIT: one caveat - by my count there are 6 top 30 visits unaccounted for. Is it possible the Bille have had Harmon, Nolen and Grant all in and kept it quiet? Possible, but tough in this media age. But a reminder in 2022 the news Elam had been in only came out in the final 48 hours pre-draft.

No we didn't. We traded back out of the first round because when it came to the Bills at 30 they didn't think anything there was worth spending a 1st on. You are talking about a year out devaluing a future asset for two day 2 picks in this draft. Imagine Josh gets hurt week 4 and then 1st rounder next year ends up a top 10 pick? Devaluing a 1st to a 2nd when it is time to use that 1st is one thing. Doing it ahead of time to cash your chips on a couple of day two picks? No NFL GM is ever doing that.

Yes. He won't be though. But he is going 15-26 rather than top 10.

Neither was good last year. I'd say Baltimore Tre was probably better than Douglas but LA Tre was worse. Tre is one of my favourite ever Bills. I hope being back in familiar surroundings can revive him. It can happen. Darius Slay just had a roll back the years season after looking cooked in 2023. If the Bills are saying "we are fine at corner, we have Tre" then I don't like it. Otherwise I class it as a shot worth taking.

Giving up a 1st for an extra day 2 pick this year is nonsensical. You never trade a 1st for anything other than a special player. Whether that is a vet you trade it away for OR a prospect you think is special. Trading it just for more day 2 ammo is a crazy idea.

He is. Aaron Rodgers' biggest problem has always been Aaron Rodgers.