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Damn right that's fine since that was the conversation you interrupted, which ultimately left you exposed as a fool who can't hold down his end of an argument. Nice concession but no surprise. The difference between insects like you and contributing trolls of TSW like Des is simple- you have no argument because developing one is alien to your nature and hence why you don't populate a Pats board where the intelligent Pats fans discuss their team. Your destiny is to rudely interrupt actual discussions about the game of football and when flushed out rely on your default retreat of "but we won 3 Super Bowls!". Let me share something with you Einstein- take a "we won 3 Super Bowls" and add a "John Kerry went to Vietnam" and you can buy yourself one big hot cup of Jack Squat here on The Stadium Wall. And a guy like you oughta' be used to that squatting position since it's the natural feeding orientation for your species .-)

Either that or simply revel in how warmly they receive being slapped silly in public! Probably a childhood thing ;-)

That's exactly right- they've dominated no one, unlike the NFL Dynasties. Take Green Bay and San Fran- both with an average margin of score in Super Bowls of +19 - and they've won in multiple generations of their team to qualify as a Dynasty. This versus a negative margin of score for the "anything but a dynasty" Pats who can't qualify for the dynasty designation since they've won only in a single generation of the team.

I'm guessing the kid with the inate ability every game to catch the ball with his neck ;-)

Where "loaded" means you don't like the answer! So you concede my original point to another Bill's fan by admitting that Thurman's Helmet cannot name one single consecutive championship team in NFL History with less compelling margins of victory than the Pats. Thanks for playing ;-)

Do two insects constitute a swarm? Actually, "anyone who claims that doesn't qualify as a dynasty" actually understands what the word dynasty means! You might nibble on a dictionary before you crawl back under the refrigerator ;-)

Speaking of facts- we're all breathlessly awaiting your answer to the orginal question: One more time- Among the 15 instances of teams winning consecutive NFL Championships, which are the ones you cite that are LESS convincing than the two 3-point squeakers by the Pats? Exterminator's Theme

Much like the flotsam in a flushed toilet, you enter into a conversation I'm having with another Bill's fan regarding his assessment of the Pat's as a "Dynasty"; I point out that this use of the word dynasty is wholly inaccurate and YOU interrupt my perfectly reasoned assessment of the Pats as the least convincing consecutive championship team in the history of the NFL. After your rude interruption claiming "you don't understand anything" I point out that I'll stand by my conclusion and I ask you to name ONE SINGLE instance where consecutive NFL championships have been won in a more pathetic manner than those won solely on the foot of Adam Viniatieri. Of course, you can't answer the simple question I pose because it would expose you for the insect you are- a know-nothing band wagoneer who doesn't even possess the confidence in his football knowledge to discuss his team with his own fan base in a forum established for that team. But do continue to humor us, like any insect your continued boorish behavior in a forum in which YOU are the guest will ultimately lead to your extermination. RAAIIIIDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something terribly wrong happened in a company headed by a man who had rightfully gained a great reputation as an American war hero, a hard worker and a generous benefactor. How it spun out of control is not clear, but I will say this- John's wife was virtually never thought of in the same manner and she drove her children to "succeed" in ways even bigger than their father. The incredible ethic and ideals of John's parents James and "Yiya" are still visible in the family of Gus, John's brother, where a different approach to their children took place in a parallel family universe. Gus and Reba Rigas raised their kids to be happy first and successful second, and the results are clear now- John, being dragged down to some (likely large) degree by his loyalty to his sons will pay a huge price. The probable influence who had more to do with their whole undoing will be sitting comfortably at home. Gus and Reba's kids, like their parents, remain down to earth; one of the finest families you could ever know. They're approachable, decent and as generous as their grandparents taught them to be. A different approach, a different outcome. It would be reckless to condemn the name of a fine family by the actions of a few, and I for one find the broad stroke condemnations incredibly myopic. The real shame may be that there's not a cell next to Tim Rigas set aside for his mother Doris.

Actually, if I recall correctly you are on borrowed time as a troll in this forum- were you not involved in what proved to be a nefarioulsy false attack on a Bill's fan that proved to sound the death of another troll insect buddy of yours here not long ago? Making references to the BS that got your hivemate booted might not be an intelligent strategy, but hey- don't let me interfere with you hanging yourself- I'm no fan of trolls with poor manners! Now let's see if I can make this any easier for you since you so rudely interrupted my conversation with another Bills fan here about the lack of accuracy in calling the current Pats a "Dynasty", an application that contradicts the multigenerational basis of the word. I've asked you the simplest of all questions, a verifiable and quantitative question about the incredibly tight scores in your championship wins- can you name even ONE of the 15 instances of consecutive NFL Championships where the winner was less convincing in victory than the Pats have been? Go ahead and scream and cry about how unfair my conversation with other Bill's fans is, the reality is it merely points out how difficult your struggle was in grade school English. But do carry on, I realize your kind can be awful noisy while you molt!

Well then please do entertain me! I'll spare the time to expose your ill manners in this forum in which you appear to forget you are a guest. You offer not a single fact to refute my conclusion. Typically that's the sign of at best a blowhard, offering rhetoric over any substance. Here's your chance to show just how "knowlegable" you are: From among the 15 times that NFL teams have won consecutive championships I challenge you to identify any of those teams with LESS convincing back to back wins than the two 3-point squeakers the Pats eked out in '04 and '05. tick.... tick...... tick..... tick......

The facts simply don't support a designation of "Dynasty". A dynasty is multi-generational and at this point it's been a single generation of this team with titles. Dynasties in the NFL would be accurately limited to: Green Bay Pittsburgh Dallas San Francisco Oakland/LA Raiders Arguably Giants and Skins In fact these Pats haven't even reached the level of dominant, let alone dynasty- three of the five least convincing Super Bowl wins in history, and each one a 3-point win on the foot of far and away the best player on their roster. Kickers are hardly dynasty makers. It was enlightening being in New England last week, where I hadn't travelled in about a decade. It was laughable how popular Pat's gear has all of a sudden become in a place where a Pat's Jersey used to simply signify a lackey who didn't have the good sense to buy Bruin's gear.

I didn't say the value proposition doesn't support allowing Pat to move on, but at the same time the loss of his skills immediately hurts our run stopping ability and unless Tim Anderson turns out to be a phenom we will be nowhere near as good against the run this season. In the NFL today, and this holds especially true in our division, two solid run stoppers and a pass rushing DT with help to spell them is the MINIMUM to have a superior defense. Right now there's no way anyone can make that supposition about us- we have only 1 solid run stopper, a passing down only player in Edwards and a complete unknown with no credible help behind those three. If you want to see how a real quality NFL defense is built look at the strength at DT on the NE roster. They have far more real talent at the DT spot and they play a freaking 3-4!

While that's 100% accurate there's no historical evidence that the loudest fans will ever watch line play and recognize it has far more to do with a team's success than the quality of the quarterback. Jennings is a pass blocking Tackle who was not a good fit for the offense we're running featuring WMcGahee, and his value to teams running a pass feature offense made him a liability. It's not out of the question that we'll improve on that side of our line with an under the radar player currently on our roster. A running offense doesn't need a marquis LT, it requires a tough working grunt with a serious motor. The loss of Jennings is hardly the silver bullet some publicaitons and fans portray it as. PWilliams is a completely different story. He remains one of the best run plugs in football with sure hands and feet. Yeah, he's been seeing less time but Ron Edwards is simply a passing down DT- he's never shown the ability to hold his ground against NFL run blocking and additonally he just doesn't tackle well when he does get position. Anderson would have to be a pretty special player to not have the loss of Pat be our major achilles heel this season. If Edwards ends up getting run down duty you shouldn't expect London Fletcher to finish the season, he'll simply get killed. Our defensive outlook rests upon the shoulders of the barely tested Tim Anderson.

My impression as a regular reader of the LA Times and listener to the Laker's Station on AM is that while there has been some amount of understandable griping about ONeal's talking down LA and the Lakers (especially as he moves his team forward towards the finals and the Lakers sit- a combo of envy on one side and poor sportsmanship on the other), it seems Bryant's star has dimmed to possibly a lower level than even after the rape charges first came up. Nationally I don't see Shaq going after the team who spurned him hurting him at all, and Bryant has even less cache than he does in his home market.

The Tight End who was too soft to play the game he was genetically engineered for.

I'm no fan of his game- he's hardly a basketball player. But he's been the most dominant force in the game for many years and the Laker Titles of recent were on his back. He's also in a lot of ways funny since he's a good interview and he seems to be a pretty good guy too. Jerry Buss is a clown who began to believe he understood basketball- no more Jerry West and no more Laker titles. Kobe- the gunner you hated to play with as a kid, will remain a loser unless he's traded to a winning franchise or by some deal with the devil a guy like Duncan comes to LA as a FA.

I left WNY in 1977 and I get back for one or sometimes two games in most years- we've picked two road games this season though since I enjoy contributing to the debaucherous city tills of New Orleans and Tijuana alike. It's about a three day run if you drive straight-through from SoCal so I have always opted for a trip into Buf International, even back in the days they'd drop me off in a snowstorm on the tarmac 400 feet from the terminal with about 20 feet of visibility and no one or device to guide you. The first time that happened I was coming from Miami and wearing shorts and a tee shirt. It didn't happen again ;-)

Victoria Beckham is actually pretty, in fact IMO she's a very,very pretty woman. I've seen Paris Hilton without makeup and she's nowhere close to any measure of "pretty" that I'm familiar with. In fact her face reminds me of countless plain-jane adolescent toe-heads still too young to be allowed by their parents to stay out past 10 on weekends.

I don't know if this is the photo/photos being "discussed" in the press, if not I'm sure a link to the benefit photos would be warmly received here ;-) Posh Spice

Rayburn did Tic Tac Dough, I don't remember the format or the stage so I'm not certain the shot is from it.

From the film of the Bills I've looked at in game time and pre-season I'd probably go with Rashad Baker on the current roster. He's an up and comer who was getting more playing time as the season wore on and a real ST standout with a will to go where others quiver. He hits like he's 40 pounds bigger than the 190 or so he's listed at. Now if AWinfield wasn't wearing purple this would have been a lot easier.

That's a point of interest- the first use of "living breathing document" to describe the U.S. Constitution gets attributed to Al Gore in a Google search.

The costs to manufacture in the U.S. are non-competitive. China is the preferred option but short of that, and considering your specific directive, you could make the best argument for a point of manufacture like Ireland. Look up the Shannon Free Zone and build your plan there- there are already qualified and comeptetn workers plus the tax incentives are very good. Not to mention when you knock off you get to hang out with the "funnest" people in the world ;-)

That's incorrect from my understanding- the change regarding adoption of (the requirements to pass) cloture will require a simple majority of the Senate. It's something the Republicans may not have been able to hold before the shameful hypocrisy displayed today by Patrick Leahy and his Democratic cohorts who in the past publicly decried the use of judicial filibusters when they held control of the Senate. I believe Leahy's specific statement was "a filibuster should under no circumstances be used to deny an up or down vote to a judicial nominee". After today's display of Democratic Senator after Democratic Senator standing up and directly contradicting their publicly recorded positions from the past, the Republicans may just have developed the votes to do it. For example: “I plead with my colleagues to move judges with alacrity, vote them up or down,” Dem. Sen. Charles Schumer 2000 "It defies the clear constitutional prerogatives of the duly elected president to choose nominees to the bench and the duty of the Senate to say yes or no." Dem. Sen. Russ Feingold 2000 These are three of the Senators leading the blocking tactic against minority judicial nominees.