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Then tell Rod Lynn and Rex that. Even though the fact that he drafted a player like Jace Amaro who was a receiver. This is like playing with Allen Iverson. You do your job but you know based on where the play takes you. You will not be seeing any reward

Basically keep writing what you are writing. Same stuff happened with Manuel and Orton. People don't realize this is the monster they created due to no patience. I honestly think this is Tyrods last year her due to the price tag. But its been a long time since we have had someone we can depend on. He didn't have a good day... as a qb. But he is fun to watch when he takes off. You are right to have your own opinion as others are right to share theirs. Like someone else said most people on here just talk mess or make jokes I still don't get. But its all fun There are people here you would swear work for the scouting department analytics department or even the AV team. Thats what makes this board great. We all argue we all read. And we all keep coming back. Keep it up man

What the heck did you say to get labeled a racist?

We run the Army wishbone offense

There is absolutely zero evidence of the inverse either. I stated he would have been better had he not been drafted into a dysfunctional system where a developmental project wasnt allowed to be a project. Further more the whole Kevin Kolb's debacle proved my point that this was disfunction. Most good QBS learn from OTHER GOOD qbs. We had none, may as well have kept Fitz. He had a whole bunch of mental acumen but his body was limited.

People want to make Jones the next whipping boy. Didnt we learn from EJ that you take someone with some sort of potential and throw him into disfunction he is not gonna be productive or improve. We aren't evaluating EJ we are preserving Jones. If Tyrod sucks and is released next year. We can move Jones to 1 and sign EJ to back him up if there is no draftable qbs. Or we can sign someone. But my main point is there is NO WAY Cardale should play this year

You do realize Incognito is our best line man right? By a country mile. Easy on the all pro QB he made the ProBowl as an alternate. From an offense where your ALL PRO qb was not able to win 1 game while throwing 30 or more passes. Face it he is limited. He was babies along last year and when we opened up the play book to him. You get this performance. Let's see what happens against 2 good teams. I dont care about the defense stinking I dont care about no Watkins let's see if he looks like HE belongs on the field with the Cards and Pats. Let's see if he rallies the troops. Let's see if he puts this team on his back. Exactly this... has he ever led a sustained drive that resulted in a score? I honestly don't remember an extended drive where we picked up multiple first downs down the field... unlike the ALL PRO qbs who do it everyday. And in a passing league. What is 300 yards?

Why not just play EJ and let Cardale keep working. For 20+ mil. I would think he has to be probowl caliber or has to lead us to the playoffs.

Not trying to be funny but with his luck he would have Martin Gramatica'd that long jump celebration and torn a hamstring

I was just thinking it's not all bad because we have the perfect personnel to go back to a 43 without skipping a beat. Maybe a new safety and corner if we don't keep gilmore. Seymour may even work out

And then we would need "a kelly" to run the offense on the field lol bring back the k gun Where is your sarcasm font sir In some alternate reality Gailey and Pettine or Schwartz are our OC and DC. Wooow If he only forgot names he would be ok. He says stuff is completed he says first down. He isnt even watching the right monitor

Let's reserve judgement on the not turning the ball over. I want to see him take risks before we use that. He is safe right now but so was trent. Let's just hold off on that for a second Greatly agree I dont think OP was necessarily omitting them on the grounds that they dont count. i think he was more so saying that the majority of Taylor's day.about half of the yards gained on 30 passes came on 2 plays. Nevermind the garbage time because I agree... there was not MUCH garbage time. But I think he is really looking for more production between those two key plays. The goodwin play was exactly what they wanted. Salas... not so much. But I am in line with you in the sense the plays happened and do in fact count

Your last sentence said it all Thats funny. Atleast you wiki'd it. Isn't his middle name luke Ramon or something

Exactly. As the second alternate and did absolutely nothing. When he came I was like ok either he or EJ will start. He completed some balls ran like the wind and everyone got so googly eyed. They didn't see that this dude was a welcome story but he had glaring weaknesses. Remember the whole he put them on his back and single handedly won the Tennessee game in the clutch. Then the air raid drills to watkins. Oh lord let's not let this man get away. Meanwhile Clay has proven himself in this league and has had some high points with us. Use the weapons.throw the ball to them.

Among who? How many times did you hear last year. We finally have our guy. The front office. We have our guy. I'm not making this up. If i were wrong no one would be calling him TyGod Tryhard. He was annointed too soon. And now he is what some said he was. People want to get amnesia. Remember the whole this is the best qb play we have seen since Kelly rhetoric. It has been so nauseating. It has made many just plain not like him.

If everyone knew Mario was going to be cut for his 17 mil or so when he was a probowler. We should all be almost TOO confident Tyrod won't be here next year at 27 mil

Nope... the general consensus is he was a franchise qb

Bingo. Thats a great post. I think he is the same guy. Teams just know now how to play him. His tendencies. I think that the only way he would have truly turned the corner is if he were to sustain drives and make all the throws. The Jets thoroughly disrespected him by running a single high with Sammy and Goodwin out there. Two guys who can burn. They know he cant/won't look down field. This, even after being burned by the goodwin score and the the Salas td. They still didn't give him enough credit to put the ball down field. That is the mark of a man who is not ready. He doesn't audible. I dont know if they use hand signals or what. But he really limits what you want to do. Let's see if Lynn has any clue. If he runs a different play scheme tyrod may look good again and we will have this same conversation next year

Exactly my take. People usually talk about the sophomore slump. Thats what he basically is if you continue the he is "pretty much a rookie" arguement. On top of that. Tyrod was a gimmicks. He runs fast and throws far. Outside of that where were we really? He never really sustained a drive. Never showed to be methodical, never showed he could read the field. He was just a nice change of pace. Now we need him to be a qb topped with a hefty price tag. Expectations are going to be so high he will never live up

Not the same guy who made his name by locking up the coveted Mike Evans in college. You surely jest

I noticed a lot of single high played by the Jets as well. I can not believe we didn't launch more balls to goodwin or sammy.

Im not trying to be combative but I don't know if I can hold a nose tackle responsible. The mismanagement of Mario and Manny amongst others got us here. This 34 46 bs also did us in. We have had how many do overs and gimmes and now we have this crap. Dareus is a pass rushing dt. Him along with mario kyle and Jerry put fear in EVERYONE'S heart. Instead break all that up. Draft a edge guy with a bum shoulder and ragland who was just bad luck. Couple that with a long haired brother a do nothing DC and ta daaaaaa!!! Dareus is so low on my list of this defense i cant stand it This is the nutshell

No debate from me. Darby is top dog.

DIDNT even take 18 games lol. It seemed instantaneous. As soon as Pettine left or defense went from elite to a joke

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