Buffalo Boy

I've been saying this for months now. 8-8, miss the playoffs, Orton is a bum, start EJ. What do we have to show for the season? NOTHING!!!

When Orton overthrow a sideline pass to a receiver in single coverage, running a fly patter....It's Orton's fault. I'm confident the coaches would agree. When Orton chucks it into the turf in front of Sammy, when Sammy has run a dig route....Orton's fault. ICTCWA. When Orton turns his back to the line of scrimmage, and starts to go fetal, and there is still a good pocket around him, Orton's fault,ICTCWA. Get the gist of my/our point?

Wow, I guess that thing Orton does where he stares down his receiver and still misses the pass, we can't possibly attribute that to him. How about the slant passes where he hits the receiver on his back shoulder or worse( and these guys still catch it). I guess we can't blame Orton. How about wide open receivers that he doesn't see (When he does try to go through reads) and he checks down. maybe they weren't suppose to be that wide open so he did the right thing by checking down because maybe it was a trick?! Dude....Really?!!!

Fair point, but, Washington is a bit of a dumpster fire itself and I wonder what the locker room chemistry(or lack thereof) is. Cliche alert!!! Sometimes you just need a change of scenery. Cousins has the potential to be a win or two better than Orton. How the heck did we lose to KC? UGG

Also, Cutler is worthless+

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES YES,........You get the point.

You must be one of the aforementioned Cam haters. Hurney screwed this team royally with the cap situation he left. I don't begrudge Gettlemen's player personnel decisions because he's making them with one hand tied behind his back. Quick quiz: What makes the Bills O Line look like a bunch of seasoned vets.....The Panther's O line. Cam has no line, two tall possession receivers(none with any speed) and a crappy defense and a crappy coach and it's his fault? Dude broke rookie records, started with two 400+ yard games after no training camp(Strike/lockout). He plays on a team that has NOT surrounded him with talent(Hurney/salary cap issues) and he's un-coachable even after you suggest he did well when coached up? He isn't prototypical but he is a winner and just needs the team to prove it. I don't think he will be available but he is LIGHTYEARS better than anyone who was listed at the beginning of this thread:) Well here he is guys, the one guy who has never, shall we say, snapped his own radish...LMAO

What it comes down to is somehow EVERYONE seems to not realize that it takes years for your starting capable(but not superstar) player to learn to play QB. Kap, Wilson, RG3 were all the rage two years ago because of the stars aligning. Now we see where they are. Put a young QB on a good team and ask him to not do to much and it can work. Make him do it years in a row.....Meh. EJ may well be the guy we need him to be but coaches coach for their jobs and can't afford to let QBs learn. I hate that this season has been wasted on Orton and EJ missed the opportunity to learn by doing. Outcome is going to be the same IE: no playoffs. Like a bullet, whether you miss by an inch or a mile you still missed. Of course, a bunch of you are going to crow about, "First winning season in a decade" but it was piss poor Offfensive ball to watch and we are no better off than when we started the season.

Is it? Or is it so normal you can't comprehend it:) This team has had a close to 20 year suck fest at QB( excepting Bledsoe for one season when we didn't have a defense) ....Damned straight I'd be in a celebratory mood.

Hence the "Cheap". I feel like he has better accuracy than Orton. I am certainly not calling him a long term solution. Did I mention I FREAKING HATE Orton. Love me some Matt Moore. Hate that we didn't get him when we had the chance.

Living in Charlotte for 18 years, I can tell you there is a large group of conspiracy theorists who feel the GM Gettlemen has purposely tried hamstringing Newton because he doesn't like him. There is also a descent sized contingent of fans/sports media locals who aren't sold on him. If the Bills had Newton on this team, they would be instant SB contenders. He needs to be in a passing Offense where they just let him rip it. Not a lot of designed runs, though. The option stuff is slowly killing him. In summary, if we got Newton, I would be in the bathroom for a while and I wouldn't be combing my hair Mom. !!!!!!!

Guys, I hate Orton for a few reasons, one being his lack of heart. You know who makes him look like he has the heart of a Lion.....Cutler. Putting him on this team would be like putting cancer in your pancreas......nothing but a bad outcome promised. Cousins cheap isn't a bad idea.

I couldn't get passed the first sentence. Are you Effing kidding me???!!! He's a BUM!!!!

Take out the Dumpster fire....er I mean Jets games and what are his stats?

Hah!!! 😝

Agree. I don't hate Marrone but neither am I impressed. Hated the re punt after the repunt when we had the ball on the 45 and lost 9 yards. BAD:( It took the back end of the defense a while to get it together this season but they all trust each other now. They don't get flustered by bad plays. The pre snap communication is obvious and they are all very relaxed. This actually reminds me of Ted Cottrell's defense, not the scheme as much as the demeanor. They don't get punked, they do the punking.

O Coordinator= #1 concern with QB a close second and o line 3rd. Someone mentioned Chudzinski in another post. The idea grows on me more and more. Don't know where he is or what he's up to but it would be an instant upgrade. We have some great talent on the offensive side of the ball and someone has to be able to put it to better use.

Spot on. Crappy offensive coordination, bad o-line play and poor QB play are why we lost those games(with some bad calls added in for good measure) To quote the inimitable Nigel Tufnel..." None more!!!" None more better. ORTON SUCKS!!!!!!! STOP!!!!!!! NO Orton in 2015!!!!!!!

No! I don't hear you! (Fingers in ears) La La La La Amen Here in Charlotte we watched him Cam's first year was good. He definitely isn't afraid to push the ball down field. Cam's second year he was heavy option and the offense looked like crap till they got away from it. Also, apparently he is a SUPER Weeny which is the main reason he got canned after one season in Cleveland. Not sure if that matters as OC when you only crap on players but as a HC he ticked everyone off. GOTTA be better than Hackett

Like they had Woods and Urbik and Williams in the dog house. Like they kept putting Spiller in game after game because of his nifty North South skills. Yeah, they have a keen eye for Offensive talent. Pun intended:)

We are NOT going to beat the Packers. We don't have a "Best chance" we have NO chance. Putting Orton in there won't make any difference. Good God, are you guys auditioning for the next HC job by demonstrating your mindless BS in front of the press skills?

Uhh,The Bills are eliminated.....Have been for a while......like a chicken with its head cut off they keep moving but their fate is sealed. Put EJ in and start planning for next season. This one is over, in terms of playoffs. We just lost in the pre first round yesterday to a good team playing bad football and still having their way with us. Define failure. Lose games while looking like crap? Then they are setting up Orton also. It's called getting him real reps. It's called planning for the future. It's a chance to see who else on the team keeps playing for pride(keepers) and who packs it up early (Trade bait ).

How many pics did he throw? How many more were dropped? Not flukey, tipped ball pics but looking(Staring) right at your guy and chucking it to the other guy. How much of his yardage was YAC? And how about a little, maybe just a smidgeon of hustle when you are down by 14. Fatboy can't move that fast apparently. Remember all the talk about the fastest offense and most plays per game. How about just doing it in your two minute drill and not throwing check down after check down. PA- FING-THETIC . Keep crowing about your moral victories. Did it occur to you that they knew we couldn't win and they just rode it out with their run game because they felt no threat? I'm sure Manning is feeling pretty bad about having to take such a bad win into next week.

It pains me to no end to read Orton backers on this page. He is brutal. He missed so many wide open receivers today, most on over throws. And the fetal thing he does where he turns his back and hunches over preparing to be hit....FREAKING PANZY. A complete wasted season with him behind center. We don't have a thing to show for it....NOTHING. UGGG I honestly believe Tuel could have had a comparable season with this defense. I won't bring up the other guy because apparently he is inaccurate?!

AMEN!!!!! Freaking Mary:(