Buffalo Boy

All Bills fans know getting there and losing “ain’t all that” either?

Threads about : him failing and “ his long term viability “. Bringing in Foles to get us to the SB this year. If Barkley won, Allen might be on the first bus out of town. Are you losing faith in JA. All from separate thread. The sky is falling for many and as usual it is ALL on the QB?

I’m selling patience. Something that a bunch of butt hurt OPs , on some pretty reactionary threads, don’t seem to have. It’s not a comparison of stats, it’s a few examples of other QBs who sucked in their second and third seasons and went on to success. Also, last I heard, Brees was still in the league! And the Favre comparison is just too obvious not to draw. The Goff bashing on here was off the charts two years ago. I would argue he’s Meh. A timing/ system guy who can’t make things happen when things break down. The SB was pathetic from a Rams O perspective.

Yeah, Daboll needs to have him practice rolling out and chucking it out of bounds every single practice. Kyle Allen is currently five sacks for five fumbles in two games! Those are Peterman numbers. They won yesterday because of CMc on a HOF pace and good D.

You can compare growth though. I agree and said so but a QB is a QB. They often suck at first, regardless of ability and then they grow into it. One this JA shares with all these guys is self belief and competitiveness.

Right up to the end, that was his game.

I can’t say I was completely surprised by Josh Allen’s day yesterday. He looked like a young QB, in over his head, who was often unable to process what he was seeing. When we drafted him we knew he was a project which needed a lot of fundamental development. Yesterday we saw that on full display. I also am not surprised by the level of dismay and panic on this board. Many on here want him to be a finished product before he’s played one full season of NFL games. It got me thinking of some other QBs I’ve watched in the past who had to fight through some rough seasons as they learned on the job. The first one I thought of was Drew Brees. His second season ‘02 : 17 TD 16 Ints. 8-8 His third season. ‘03: 11 TD 15 Ints. 2-9 He balled out the next season but got the knee injury. Rivers was already behind him so he was scooped up by the Saints. Troy Aikman is next. His second season ‘90: 11 TD 18 Ints 7-8 His third season. ‘91: 11 TD 10 Ints 7-5 Then there was Brett Favre His second season ‘92: 18 TD 13 Ints 8-5 His third season. ‘93: 19 TD 24 Ints 9-7 Farve to me is an easy comparison because they both throw stupid passes that drive everyone crazy from poor platforms. Finally, our own Beloved Jimbo First NFL season was ‘86. I’m including the first season because he had balled out crazy talk time in the USFL and I feel like you couldn’t really call him a Rookie with that much “ Pro” experience. His first season ‘86: 22 TD 17 Ints 4-12 His third season ‘88: 15 TD 17 Ints 12-4 I didn’t include the 87 scab season. I get that these aren’t apples to apples comparisons on certain levels. I think the point is still valid though. I believe any of us would take the QBs these guys became with some rough starts.? Josh is still a rough around the edges QB who hasn’t become comfortable with proper mechanics. He also still can’t read defenses quickly. Sometimes he can but not on a regular basis as was explicitly on display in the first half yesterday. I’m not giving him a pass but I do believe Daboll’s first half of the game was called poorly in terms of Josh. He needed to just get the ball out quickly, over and over. I’m ASSUMING that some of those plays were longer developing without an outlet. The line was not giving him the time to stand back there and he clearly couldn’t pull the trigger. Add the blitzing he was facing and he was toast. Part of that was also on the receivers not getting open. Many of us were worried about this receiving Corp going into the season and it looks like it was warranted. Brown, Beasely and Knox are the only ones I like. Andre Roberts should be getting more time. I have to believe he should be able to run a deep route better than Zay with a greater expectation of catching the ball. It’s a long season and we are in good position at the quarter mark. We lost a close game to a perennial SB contender. This hurt but wasn’t a surprise. This team needs more talent in key positions and like the aforementioned QBs who blossomed, Josh needs more time, practice, proper coaching and all important game experience. Now is not the time to even BEGIN to think of pulling the plug.

They are. There are a lot of bad teams playing bad football right now.

This is why I want a double digit edge rusher next year. That would make this a dominating D

11-5 Thetr are going to be burps and hiccups this team is moving in the right direction playing a weak schedule.

I will run onto the workroom floor ( PO) in my Bills Wrestling Mask and absolutely year it up, pissing EVERYONE off???

Joe Person reporting sources say it’s a Lisfranc foot injury( per multiple sources)

We lose all those games we still go 11-5. Sign me up!!!

Whoopdee Effing Doo!!!! I can’t be bothered to watch or pay attention to the Craptriots!!!!!! A bad Jets team put 14 points on them however it happened. All you doom and gloomers might as well start drinking now because there is NO chance the Bills can do anything next week? It’s like watching a wussy who hangs out with a tough guy because it makes him feel cool? I’m a BILLS FAN! Screw the Cheatriots and all you little wimps fawning over them.

The Jets scored 14 points against them with a third string QB. I don’t expect a win but it is possible for the first time in A LONG time?

Well at least you felt good?

Just talked about this during the game. I’d like the first pick to be one or the other with a possible trade to move up to get a good one. A double digit sacking DE who is stout against the run would make a huge impact when coupled with Star and Oliver. Not sold on Dawkins , JA was running for his life way too much.

Every time my wife walked out of the room, the O started sucking. She got yelled at for even thinking of getting on the computer during the fourth quarter

Are you doubters happy now???? Of course not!!!!

He needs to be coached to take the sack

Rookie Play?

So, would AB in this locker room in the first two weeks been good or bad?

We do not just learn from our own mistakes but from others if we are smart. I agree there is nothing wrong with kicking the tires but every GM has to know what is good for his team. The benefit of dropping a time bomb into a young locker room like ours is a mistake that I don’t want to see. The Pat situation is completely different

Coaches and GMs have learning curves too. I take this as s bullet dodged and hopefully a lesson learned by McBean