Buffalo Boy

Let play a game. I start running away from you and you try to hit me in stride while six or seven people who outweigh you try to run into you as hard as they can. I bet you miss on a couple throws?

Agreed. If McD could massage us into the playoffs with TT I think he can do it this year. He has to take points and keep it a little more conservative until JA earnest he right to ball out.

Absolutely agree. In the Giants game he had a string of play that showed him doing the right things so I know he’s capable of it. But, it was like Daboll just decided he could handle him like a Vet. He can’t. That “ Bad Josh” has to be coached out of him on a continuous basis. Said another way, the coaches have to protect him from himself until the new habits become more ingrained and stronger than the Hero ball habits. Also, I’d like to see. McD take the points when they are there and not chase them. With this O and Special teams they are going to come at a premium often.

I’m going the other way. I feel he needs to be coached into proper “game manager “ material. He needs to understand field position ( in terms of FG attempts) and when he should just take a sack or chuck it away if out of the pocket. He also needs to be coached NOT to fade backwards unless it’s a screen. He needs to take what the defense is giving and put the ball in Yeldon, Beasely or Gore’s hands and do it on a short clock. This D is capable of keeping us in almost all the games. It might be boring but if he can do the “ simple stuff” the long ball has a better chance.

Against the Pats in the regular season , P.Manning had 43 TDS and 26 picks including four 3 interception games. In the playoffs he was 6TDs to 6 Ints with a four interception game included. I don’t think it’s being a Fanboy to suggest it isn’t surprising that JA was lost playing against the Pats in his 15 NFL game or that we should take it with a grain of salt,

That was the 4 th or fifth game of the season. I remember that day well. I went hunting with my buddy that morning and was excited to come back and watch the game..... oooof

Allen needs to not run. He was fighting for a first down, got stood up and didn’t give up. He keeps that up he will get more hits like that a la Cam Newton.

AMEN

I’d rather have a single SB victory

Which is why I said it isn’t apples to apples and we need some more talent at the skill position. IMO, a number 1 WR and O line help . Having said that I still feel the line will improve as the season progresses.

I listen to nothing but Panther talk all day in Clt. He fumbled twice in the first game and , yeah, it was a topic of conversation. He had 3 more yesterday and the bloom is already off the rose for many here but they are happy to have the wins.

Hoodie did what he always does...... He let the other team beat itself. What sucked was watching Daboll not coach up JA to hit a hot read or dump off on a single one of the million blitzes he seemed to face in the first half. I used to think the saying, “ A punt is a good play” was the stupidest thing ever. Now I get it.

All Bills fans know getting there and losing “ain’t all that” either?

Threads about : him failing and “ his long term viability “. Bringing in Foles to get us to the SB this year. If Barkley won, Allen might be on the first bus out of town. Are you losing faith in JA. All from separate thread. The sky is falling for many and as usual it is ALL on the QB?

I’m selling patience. Something that a bunch of butt hurt OPs , on some pretty reactionary threads, don’t seem to have. It’s not a comparison of stats, it’s a few examples of other QBs who sucked in their second and third seasons and went on to success. Also, last I heard, Brees was still in the league! And the Favre comparison is just too obvious not to draw. The Goff bashing on here was off the charts two years ago. I would argue he’s Meh. A timing/ system guy who can’t make things happen when things break down. The SB was pathetic from a Rams O perspective.

Yeah, Daboll needs to have him practice rolling out and chucking it out of bounds every single practice. Kyle Allen is currently five sacks for five fumbles in two games! Those are Peterman numbers. They won yesterday because of CMc on a HOF pace and good D.

You can compare growth though. I agree and said so but a QB is a QB. They often suck at first, regardless of ability and then they grow into it. One this JA shares with all these guys is self belief and competitiveness.

Right up to the end, that was his game.

I can’t say I was completely surprised by Josh Allen’s day yesterday. He looked like a young QB, in over his head, who was often unable to process what he was seeing. When we drafted him we knew he was a project which needed a lot of fundamental development. Yesterday we saw that on full display. I also am not surprised by the level of dismay and panic on this board. Many on here want him to be a finished product before he’s played one full season of NFL games. It got me thinking of some other QBs I’ve watched in the past who had to fight through some rough seasons as they learned on the job. The first one I thought of was Drew Brees. His second season ‘02 : 17 TD 16 Ints. 8-8 His third season. ‘03: 11 TD 15 Ints. 2-9 He balled out the next season but got the knee injury. Rivers was already behind him so he was scooped up by the Saints. Troy Aikman is next. His second season ‘90: 11 TD 18 Ints 7-8 His third season. ‘91: 11 TD 10 Ints 7-5 Then there was Brett Favre His second season ‘92: 18 TD 13 Ints 8-5 His third season. ‘93: 19 TD 24 Ints 9-7 Farve to me is an easy comparison because they both throw stupid passes that drive everyone crazy from poor platforms. Finally, our own Beloved Jimbo First NFL season was ‘86. I’m including the first season because he had balled out crazy talk time in the USFL and I feel like you couldn’t really call him a Rookie with that much “ Pro” experience. His first season ‘86: 22 TD 17 Ints 4-12 His third season ‘88: 15 TD 17 Ints 12-4 I didn’t include the 87 scab season. I get that these aren’t apples to apples comparisons on certain levels. I think the point is still valid though. I believe any of us would take the QBs these guys became with some rough starts.? Josh is still a rough around the edges QB who hasn’t become comfortable with proper mechanics. He also still can’t read defenses quickly. Sometimes he can but not on a regular basis as was explicitly on display in the first half yesterday. I’m not giving him a pass but I do believe Daboll’s first half of the game was called poorly in terms of Josh. He needed to just get the ball out quickly, over and over. I’m ASSUMING that some of those plays were longer developing without an outlet. The line was not giving him the time to stand back there and he clearly couldn’t pull the trigger. Add the blitzing he was facing and he was toast. Part of that was also on the receivers not getting open. Many of us were worried about this receiving Corp going into the season and it looks like it was warranted. Brown, Beasely and Knox are the only ones I like. Andre Roberts should be getting more time. I have to believe he should be able to run a deep route better than Zay with a greater expectation of catching the ball. It’s a long season and we are in good position at the quarter mark. We lost a close game to a perennial SB contender. This hurt but wasn’t a surprise. This team needs more talent in key positions and like the aforementioned QBs who blossomed, Josh needs more time, practice, proper coaching and all important game experience. Now is not the time to even BEGIN to think of pulling the plug.

They are. There are a lot of bad teams playing bad football right now.

This is why I want a double digit edge rusher next year. That would make this a dominating D

11-5 Thetr are going to be burps and hiccups this team is moving in the right direction playing a weak schedule.

I will run onto the workroom floor ( PO) in my Bills Wrestling Mask and absolutely year it up, pissing EVERYONE off???

Joe Person reporting sources say it’s a Lisfranc foot injury( per multiple sources)

We lose all those games we still go 11-5. Sign me up!!!