Andrew Son

Not sure the org could do much more beyond and additional outside weapon. He’s had a top defense, highly rated oline, and productive run game. It’s our pass offense that is holding this team back. if consistently elite, or even good, Josh shows up all year we’re not in this hole.

Yeah, it’s not just run or don’t run. Just be smarter. Pat and Lamar run all the time, but don’t take the hits. Josh loses his mind and turns into demolition derby.

He fooled me. Thought he had a chance to be a good one. Loved his quick release.

This is the nice thing about having a program in place for so long. We can draft and develop certain types that fit our schemes. And this is one of the reasons I am against moving on from McD and blowing this all up.

The problem is Josh is not nearly as elite when you take away that dimension. Especially some games. Those games he's off- far too many IMO- seems like he needs a hit or two to get going. I think that's why Dabol used to call so many designed runs early.

Who are these Dline standouts on LA?

As is QB1 Who would have thought we'd be sitting here with a top defense, highly graded Oline, effective run game, and our one concern with this team would be the passing offense...

I'm feeling like his defense is carrying this team, unfortunately.

Those games were against: NYG, LV, NE, NYJ

Heard this statistic on Locked on Bills: Josh Allen is dead last in the league last the last four games in completion % and passer rating when facing NO pressure. There's always a million excuses for Josh when he struggles. He simply needs to be better. We have a top defense in place, a good oline, and a strong run game. With elite QB play we should be in a much better position, the passing offense should be the least of our worries.

Careful. You're dangerously close to getting this discussion tied into Orioles ownership!

Yeah, it would be nice if we also had a top option on the outside…

Vegas is thinking otherwise

This is wrong. We clinch with TEN win

Agreed. But the cupboard is nowhere near as bare as some would have you believe.

Shakir, Cook, and Kincaid are a nice group of young talented skill players.

I’d add Bernard

No. If we lose we need either PIT or JAX to lose

We could also get in in this scenario with TEN beating JAX

Those odds take into account Pitt likely losing to Bal next week and CIN to CLE. Problem is those teams have nothing to play for. If the games don't go our way today we are likely out with a loss next week, IMO

This appears to be Josh Allen. Far too many WTF performances mixed in with excellence. Today is another level of terrible though

Except we can't throw accurately deep. Kincaid was open

lol @ #55. WTF was that???

I was identifying guys included in that number that have not really played a ton this year. When you say "13 guys below him" you would think that would be starting QB's, not just anyone that has played QB this year. Agree on the stat not meaning much regarding the quality of the QB. A lot of the current best QB's hold it. My only point is that style puts additional pressure on the OL for having to sustain blocks. While Josh does make the line better by getting out of trouble with his mobility, he also makes it tough on them at times by being among the league leaders for holding the ball. That's it.

LOL, and those 13 include Deshaun Watson, Tommy DeVito, Josh Dobbs, Jimmy Garoppolo and Zach Wilson... Josh is actually quicker to throw this year than in the past. But as much as he helps out the line with his mobility, he also forces the line to sustain blocks longer than most which can be challenging.