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And it shouldn't, the coaches have access to these guys everyday. Until I see it with my own eyes, I can only go by the information that I have. And as Johnny said, we have no idea what the coaches are thinking with the rotations. Is Milano in trouble because Humber is taking first team reps in his place today?

And my point was that O'Leary has a history of success, at the highest level of college football at least, and has shown some flashes in this league. Which is more that can be said for the other TE's not named Clay. That carries more weight with me than training camp reports.

We have no idea what this means at this point. Maybe the coaches are comfortable with O'Leary and want to evaluate the others? We'll see how it plays out

The way you linked that list I was expecting to see a bunch of scrubs. There is a lot of success on that list.

Are you saying that is a bad list? yikes

Yes, I'm shocked that a guy that works the middle of the field struggled to impress with our 100 yard per game QB.

Um, John Mackey award for best TE in the country and a consensus all american...

Sure, he's not a lock. But looking at all the guys fighting for a TE roster spot, I'll lean towards the one with the pedigree. It would be great if we have something in Croom or Thomas but odds are against it.

That's true, but QB play has not helped him either. I've seen some things that I like, that's all.

He's shown flashes. More so than anyone else fighting for a backup TE spot

O'Leary strikes me as more of a "gamer" than someone who is going to stand out in practice. I hope he sticks.

Has anyone seen Steve?

I'm not sure what you guys saw, but Skydiver assured me that Foster had an excellent game!

This is great news for Nick given Joe B's record of prognostication.

I'll see your wood and ... wait, nevermind.

I think Coleman is a lock because of his salary. And Zay probably gets at least another year. Reilly's special teams tackle probably helped him. Had a nice block on Murphy's TD run too. I'm pulling for him.

Man of few words

Line talent and speed receivers. Build for the kids strengths.

Hopefully it wasn't hairy.

Quit making excuses, 26, you are slacking today! We need updates!

That's possible, I didn't watch entire games and focus on the D. But their defensive talent is really irrelavent with regards to scouting Allen. His supporting cast was really bad and his stats that everyone judged him on suffered.

To me, analytics in football is most useful for team building. How to allocate salary cap and stuff like that. On the field, it's tough... Baseball is perfect of analytics because it is basically a bunch of one-on-one matchups. Far fewer variables.

I think that conference is fine for them, generally. I'm saying that the actual talent on THIS TEAM, was FCS level. They were really bad and it made it hard on Allen.

A lot of these guys (Mike Schopp) don't even watch football. They look at numbers. In real life, I'm a numbers guy. To me, it's clear that football has too many variables to warrant the current worship of analytics.

In my opinion, the stats that made everyone hate him, were a result of his abysmal supporting cast at Wyoming. Most small, untalented schools, play other untalented schools, so stats are still relevant. Wyoming was playing out of their class. They had no talent, especially on offense (minus Allen of course). The interior oline was among the worst I have seen. Plus he played in a pro-style offense, so his stats suffered from that as well. Modern college offense lends itself to better stats, especially completion percentage. Another factor of playing at Wyoming... The stats guys hated Allen. The eyeball guys loved him. I'm with the later. If Allen played with better talent he would have went #1.